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19 Nov 2020 21:49 |
His father is a bootmaker in his first marriage and a sailor in his second. Could he be inventing a father perhaps?
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19 Nov 2020 21:32 |
Dishart seems to be the name in Fife. Wonder if it became more anglicized when he moved down south. Just a thought.
The surname Dishart was first found in Fifeshire at Dysart, a former town and royal burgh located on the south-east coast between Kirkcaldy and West Wemyss
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19 Nov 2020 20:54 |
I'm afraid it doesn't look as if we can help with finding William's birth or father.
There's a Robert Disher in Fife on censuses 1841 and onwards, but he's born c1816, so not William's father.
He might be a brother of the William John baptised in Edinburgh.
DISHER ROBERT ROBERT DISHER/JANE ECCLES FR4078 (FR4078) M 21/11/1818 685/2 140 435 St Cuthbert's
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19 Nov 2020 20:48 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Old Compton Street, St Anne, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Disher Head - Male 50 1821 bootmaker- Scotland Robert Disher Son - Male 20 1851 - Middlesex, England William Disher Son - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex, England
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19 Nov 2020 20:41 |
All the children listed with him in 1861 were Elizabeth's children:
The youngest one:
DISHER, WILLIAM EDWARD mms SWINEY GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in ST MARTIN IN THE FIELDS Volume 01A Page 267
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19 Nov 2020 20:37 |
This may be the one baptised in 1822 - but not your William:
William John Disher in the 1881 England Census Name: William John Disher Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Relationship to Head: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: St Clement Danes County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 7 Arundel Street Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Brewer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration District: Strand Sub registration district: St Clement Danes ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: Piece: 335 Folio: 23 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Robina Sheppard 72 Susan Hagart Forbes 66 Walter Sumerville Nummack 28 Thomas Colan 50 William John Disher 58 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Margaret Ann Mary Disher 19 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< C.G. Gissing 34
His daughter's baptism:
Margaret Ann Mary Disher in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Margaret Ann Mary Disher Gender: Female Birth Date: 10 Mar 1862 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland Father: John Disher Mother: Margaret Duffus FHL Film Number: 6035516
Margaret Duffus in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: Margaret Duffus Gender: Female Marriage Date: 22 Nov 1859 Marriage Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland Spouse: John Disher FHL Film Number: 6035516
Your William had a new wife by 1861, but not Margaret:
William Disher in the 1861 England Census Name: William Disher Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Disher Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Westminster St Martin in the Fields Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin in the Fields County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: St Martin In The Fields Sub-registration District: Charing Cross ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 12 Piece: 56 Folio: 107 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age William Disher 40 - bootmaker Mary Disher 41 Letitia Disher 12 Robert Disher 10 Elizabeth Disher 8 William Disher 6
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19 Nov 2020 20:36 |
His second marriage has his father, Robert as a sailor.(dec)
Name: William Disher Gender: Male Marriage Age: Full Age Marriage Date: 25 May 1874 Marriage Place: St James, Piccadilly (St James, Westminster), London, Westminster, England Parish as it Appears: St James, Westminster Search Photos: Search for 'St James, Piccadilly (St James, Westminster)' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Robert Disher Spouse: Mary Reiley
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19 Nov 2020 20:32 |
Westminster Marriages
First name(s) William Last name Disher Age Full Residence - Marriage year 1847 Parish St Martin-In-The-Fields Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Swiney Spouse age Full Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Disher Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward Spouse's father's last name Swiney County Middlesex Country England Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Marriages
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Name: William Disher Gender: Male Marriage Age: Full Age Marriage Date: 10 Jul 1847 Marriage Place: St Martin-In-The-Fields, London, Westminster, England Parish as it Appears: St Martin in the Fields Search Photos: Search for 'St Martin-In-The-Fields' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Robert Disher Spouse: Elizabeth Seviney
He says his father is a bootmaker here.
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ArgyllGran
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19 Nov 2020 20:28 |
Welcome to the boards, Terence.
There's no baptism record of a William Disher in Scotland in 1821. However, he may not have been baptised until some time after birth.
There's this one with father Robert - though not in Fife:
DISHER WILLIAM JOHN ROBERT DISHER/JANE ECCLES FR2883 (FR2883) M 31/08/1822 685/1 550 238 Edinburgh
His parents' marriage:
DISHER ROBERT JANE ECCLES/FR2574 (FR2574) 03/12/1813 685/1 540 96 Edinburgh
If you buy credits on Scotlands People website you can view the original documents.
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alviegal
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19 Nov 2020 20:25 |
So for reference.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bailiff Street, Saint Sepulchre, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Disher Head Married Male 30 1821 Boot Maker Scotland, Fifeshire Elizabeth Disher Wife Married Female 25 1826 Wife Lambeth, Surrey, England Letitia Disher Daughter - Female 2 1849 - All Saints, Northamptonshire, England Robert Disher Son - Male 0 1851 - All Saints, Northamptonshire, England Letitia Swiney Sister Unmarried Female 14 1837 Home Servant Lambeth, Surrey, England Robert Willisan Visitor Unmarried Male 29 1822 Boot Maker Scotland
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Terence
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19 Nov 2020 20:10 |
Hi I looking for help tracing William Disher b. 1821.in Scotland
Married to Elizabeth Swiney in 1847
I am tying to find his father Robert, who I think was from Scotland
Thank you
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