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Hi I looking for help tracing William Disher b. 1821.in Scotland

Married to Elizabeth Swiney in 1847

I am tying to find his father Robert, who I think was from Scotland

Thank you

So for reference.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Bailiff Street, Saint Sepulchre, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Disher Head Married Male 30 1821 Boot Maker Scotland, Fifeshire
Elizabeth Disher Wife Married Female 25 1826 Wife Lambeth, Surrey, England
Letitia Disher Daughter - Female 2 1849 - All Saints, Northamptonshire, England
Robert Disher Son - Male 0 1851 - All Saints, Northamptonshire, England
Letitia Swiney Sister Unmarried Female 14 1837 Home Servant Lambeth, Surrey, England
Robert Willisan Visitor Unmarried Male 29 1822 Boot Maker Scotland

Welcome to the boards, Terence.

There's no baptism record of a William Disher in Scotland in 1821.
However, he may not have been baptised until some time after birth.

There's this one with father Robert - though not in Fife:


DISHER
WILLIAM JOHN
ROBERT DISHER/JANE ECCLES FR2883 (FR2883)
M
31/08/1822
685/1
550 238
Edinburgh

His parents' marriage:

DISHER
ROBERT
JANE ECCLES/FR2574 (FR2574)
03/12/1813
685/1
540 96
Edinburgh

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Westminster Marriages

First name(s) William
Last name Disher
Age Full
Residence -
Marriage year 1847
Parish St Martin-In-The-Fields
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Swiney
Spouse age Full
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Disher
Spouse's father's first name(s) Edward
Spouse's father's last name Swiney
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive
City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Marriages


EDIT


Name: William Disher
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 10 Jul 1847
Marriage Place: St Martin-In-The-Fields, London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears: St Martin in the Fields
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Father: Robert Disher
Spouse: Elizabeth Seviney

He says his father is a bootmaker here.

His second marriage has his father, Robert as a sailor.(dec)

Name: William Disher
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 25 May 1874
Marriage Place: St James, Piccadilly (St James, Westminster), London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears: St James, Westminster
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Father: Robert Disher
Spouse: Mary Reiley

This may be the one baptised in 1822 - but not your William:

William John Disher
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William John Disher
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relationship to Head: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: St Clement Danes
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Arundel Street
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Brewer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration District: Strand
Sub registration district: St Clement Danes
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 335
Folio: 23
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Robina Sheppard 72
Susan Hagart Forbes 66
Walter Sumerville Nummack 28
Thomas Colan 50
William John Disher 58 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Margaret Ann Mary Disher 19 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
C.G. Gissing 34


His daughter's baptism:

Margaret Ann Mary Disher
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Margaret Ann Mary Disher
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1862
Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Father: John Disher
Mother: Margaret Duffus
FHL Film Number: 6035516


Margaret Duffus
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name: Margaret Duffus
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 22 Nov 1859
Marriage Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse: John Disher
FHL Film Number: 6035516


Your William had a new wife by 1861, but not Margaret:

William Disher
in the 1861 England Census
Name: William Disher
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Disher
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Westminster St Martin in the Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin in the Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: St Martin In The Fields
Sub-registration District: Charing Cross
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 12
Piece: 56
Folio: 107
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Disher 40 - bootmaker
Mary Disher 41
Letitia Disher 12
Robert Disher 10
Elizabeth Disher 8
William Disher 6

All the children listed with him in 1861 were Elizabeth's children:

The youngest one:

DISHER, WILLIAM EDWARD mms SWINEY
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in ST MARTIN IN THE FIELDS Volume 01A Page 267

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Old Compton Street, St Anne, Westminster, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Disher Head - Male 50 1821 bootmaker- Scotland
Robert Disher Son - Male 20 1851 - Middlesex, England
William Disher Son - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex, England

I'm afraid it doesn't look as if we can help with finding William's birth or father.

There's a Robert Disher in Fife on censuses 1841 and onwards, but he's born c1816, so not William's father.

He might be a brother of the William John baptised in Edinburgh.

DISHER
ROBERT
ROBERT DISHER/JANE ECCLES FR4078 (FR4078)
M
21/11/1818
685/2
140 435
St Cuthbert's

Dishart seems to be the name in Fife. Wonder if it became more anglicized when he moved down south. Just a thought.

The surname Dishart was first found in Fifeshire at Dysart, a former town and royal burgh located on the south-east coast between Kirkcaldy and West Wemyss

His father is a bootmaker in his first marriage and a sailor in his second. Could he be inventing a father perhaps?