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26 Oct 2020 17:39 |
we have now received the death cert for Martin but its not very helpful I don't think!
date of birth 15th May 1906- Irish Republic occupation at death metal machinest (retired) informant Vincent Burke (son) date of death 15th Nov 1986, Barnsley
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25 Oct 2020 13:23 |
The above register set starts 1872. You can work through by clicking on the Http: in blue and find baptisms for -
Mary 1872 - sponsors Ruth and Honor Connolly John 1874 - sponsors both McHughs
Sometimes sponsors names can give clues.
Trying to find a connection Nalty, / Goggins / Burke but nephew could be great nephew and so not an obvious connection
Could this marriage be a link,? Maybe a child of a brother of John
Party 1 Name JOHN BURKE Party 2 Name ELLEN NALTY Date of Event 11 June 1897 Group Registration ID 2386450 SR District/Reg Area Tuam Image
Image shows both of full age John is a Herd from Tuam, Father Thomas was a Labourer Ellen from Corofin (same as Patrick when he married). Father Patrick is a Herd Witnesses - Bernard McHugh and Mary Nalty
They have a son Martin Anthony Burke 16.12.1904 in RD of Tuam, Galway but that would make him Grandson not nephew?
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25 Oct 2020 11:50 |
Another child - No, this is Margaret !!
Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
First name(s) Mt Last name Nalty Birth year - Baptism year 1879 Baptism date 14 May 1879 Parish Kilmoylan Alternative parish names Cummer, Kilmoylan and Cummer Diocese Tuam County Galway Country Ireland Father's first name(s) Pat Father's last name Nalty Mother's first name(s) Catherine Mother's last name - Repository National Library of Ireland National Library of Ireland register http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632036#page/1/mode/1up Register Baptism Record set Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Ireland Transcript Copyright Ancestry.com LLC
witnesses - or Sponsors - Pat and Sara ?Creaner
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25 Oct 2020 11:40 |
Party 1 Name PATRICK NALTY Party 2 Name CATHERINE GOGGINS Date of Event 25 February 1868 Group Registration ID 3059965 SR District/Reg Area Tuam Image
Image shows - Both of full age Patrick Bachelor a Herd of ?Corofin Cummer. Father MArtin a Herd Catherine spinster,of? Caheraroola d/o Michael a Herd
witnesses James McHugh and Margaret Goggins
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25 Oct 2020 11:36 |
Name PETER NALTY Date of Birth 1884 Group Registration ID 10549851 SR District/Reg Area Tuam Image
Image shows Father Patrick a Farmer and Mother Catherine nee Goggins
------------------------- Image of following shows Father Patrick a Herd and Mother Catherine nee Goggins all Tuam RD
Name MICHAEL NALTY Date of Birth 1881 Group Registration ID 10834079 Image ------------ Name JOHN NALTY Date of Birth 1874 Group Registration ID 8667118 Image
------------------------- Name MARGARET NALTY Date of Birth 1879 Group Registration ID 9265264 Image
------------------------ Name ELLEN NALTY Date of Birth 1869 Group Registration ID 7716363 Image
--------------------------- Name MARTIN NALTY Date of Birth 1871 Group Registration ID 11307631 Image -------------------------- Name MARY NALTY Date of Birth 1872 Group Registration ID 10990307 Image -----------------------------
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greyghost
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25 Oct 2020 11:26 |
1901 census fro the family posted above
Residents of a house 2 in Carrowreagh (Cummer, Galway)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Nalty Patrick 65 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Galway WR Farmer Read and write Irish and English Married - Nalty Catherine 60 Female Wife Roman Catholic Galway WR - Read and write Irish and English Married - Nalty John 25 Male Son Roman Catholic Galway WR Shepherd Read and write Irish and English Not Married - Nalty Margret 21 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Galway WR Seamstress Read and write Irish and English Not Married - Nalty Peter 16 Male Son Roman Catholic Galway WR Farmers Son Read and write Irish and English Not Married -
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24 Oct 2020 22:37 |
Residents of a house 1 in Carrowreagh (Cummer, Galway) Show all information Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Nalty Patrick 74 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmer Read and write Irish and English Widower - - - - Nalty John 30 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmers Son Read and write Irish and English Single - - - - Nalty Michael 23 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmers Son Read and write Irish and English Single - - - - Nalty Peter 21 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway Herd Read and write Irish and English Single - - - - Nalty Margaret 27 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway - Read and write Irish and English Single - - - -.
Burke Martin 6 Male Nephew Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read and write - Single.
A nephew.?
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2020 21:39 |
Look the births up on irishgenealogy.ie - free to use though you have to register.
The images will give you the fathers' names.
The biirth of the Martin of Breaghwy (in 1911 and 1901 censuses as mentioned above)
DOB: 18 August 1906. - doesn't match the 1939 and death (none of the Martins' births match): POB: Corratanvally. Breaghwy Father Patrick, herd
SR District/Reg Area - Castlebar Birth of MARTIN BOURKE on 18 August 1906 Name MARTIN BOURKE Date of Birth 18 August 1906 Group Registration ID 396688 SR District/Reg Area Castlebar Sex Male Mother's Birth Surname MC TIGUE
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Julia
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24 Oct 2020 21:09 |
We have ordered Martins death certificate in the hopes that it will give us some more clues!
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Julia
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24 Oct 2020 20:59 |
Thank you everyone, I have literally no idea how I am going to work out which is the correct one but at least its given me a few leads to follow up!
Thank you
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24 Oct 2020 20:32 |
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Name: Martin Bourke Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Breaghwy, County Mayo, Ireland Event Place (Original): Lisgowel (Breaghwy, Mayo), Ireland Gender: Male Age: 6 Marital Status: Single Religion: Roman Catholic Birth Year (Estimated): 1905 Birthplace: Co Mayo Relationship to Head of Household: Son Note: - Affiliate Image Identifier: nai002981636/
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Patrick Bourke Head of Family M 47 Co Mayo Mary Bourke Wife F 49 Co Mayo Winifred Bourke Daughter F 12 Co Mayo Michael Bourke Son M 10 Co Mayo Mary Bourke Daughter F 8 Co Mayo Martin Bourke Son M 6 Co Mayo
Household ID: 0000418112
Patrick is a herder and an Agricultural Labourer Shepherd in 1901.
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greyghost
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24 Oct 2020 20:03 |
1901 census - same family as 1911 above
Residents of a house 3 in Bunnaglass (Ballycahalan, Galway)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Burke Patrick 30 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmer Read and write Irish and English Married - Burke Kate 32 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Galway - Read and write Irish and English Married - Burke Patrick 6 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read only - Not Married - Burke Mary 4 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read only - Not Married - Burke Margaret 3 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway - Cannot read - Not Married - Burke Bridget 1 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway - Cannot read - Not Married - Mangan Mary 74 Female Mother in Law Roman Catholic Co Galway Nurse Domestic Servant Cannot read Irish and English Widow -
---------------- Name BRIDGET BURKE Date of Birth 05 May 1899 Group Registration ID 9730530 SR District/Reg Area Galway Sex Female Mother's Birth Surname GREALISH Image
From image - Father Patrick of Prospect Hill a Labourer
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greyghost
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24 Oct 2020 19:22 |
2 Galway marriages of Patrick Burke to a Kate, Catherine
This looks possibly to be the one related to the 1911 census posted above (and by safc 23rd @ 1924)
Party 1 Name PATRICK BURKE Party 2 Name KATE GREALISH Date of Event 30 March 1895 Group Registration ID 2198873 SR District/Reg Area Galway Image
Image shows Patrick age 20 Bachelor a Farmer of Ardganican at marriage. father Michael a Farmer. Kate 19 a Spinster of Gardenham at marriage. Father Edward a Farmer MArried in RC chapel of Annadown witnesses - John Grancy and MArgaret Brown
------------------------------------- This probably the marriage related to the 1911 census posted by safc 23rd @1914
Party 1 Name PATRICK BURKE Party 2 Name CATHERINE DEELY Date of Event 18 February 1897 Group Registration ID 2284205 SR District/Reg Area Ballinasloe Image
Image shows Patrick of full age BAchelor Carpenter of ?MAckney. Father john a CArpenter CAtherine full age Spinster of ? Garrguane. Father Martin a ?Herd Witnesses Thomas Nickson and Mary Deely
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24 Oct 2020 18:11 |
Residents of a house 3 in Bunnaglass (Ballycahalan, Galway) Show all information Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living Burke Patrick 40 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmer Read and write Irish and English Married - - - - Burke Kate 42 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Galway - Read and write Irish and English Married - 17 7 7 Burke Patrick 16 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmers Son Read and write - Single - - - - Burke Minnie 15 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway Farmers Daughter Read and write - Single - - - - Burke Maggie 14 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read and write - Single - - - - Burke Delia 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read and write - Single - - - - Burke Ellie 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read and write - Single - - - - Burke Martin 6 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway Scholar Read and write - - - - - - Burke Michael 3 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Galway - Cannot read -
Patrick is a farmer and has sons Martin and Michael.
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2020 11:29 |
The 1906 Ballinrobe birth suggested by Kath is this one - father William on the image:
SR District/Reg Area - Ballinrobe Birth of MARTIN BURKE on 26 March 1906 More search options Name MARTIN BURKE Date of Birth 26 March 1906 Group Registration ID 297956 SR District/Reg Area Ballinrobe Sex Male Mother's Birth Surname HENEGHAN
Michael was not the same family:
SR District/Reg Area - Ballinrobe Birth of MICHAEL BURKE on 28 May 1906 Name MICHAEL BURKE Date of Birth 28 May 1906 Group Registration ID 297822 SR District/Reg Area Ballinrobe Sex Male Mother's Birth Surname MALLEY
None of the Martins whose births are on irishgenealogy.ie, 1904-1908, has the same DOB as your Martin (either 15 May 1906 or 15 June 1906.)
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KathleenBell
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24 Oct 2020 10:54 |
There is this birth in Co. Mayo:-
First name(s) Martin Last name Burke Registration year 1906 Registered quarter/year Apr - Jun 1906 Registration district Ballinrobe Volume 4 Page 42 Mother's last name (original) - County Galway, Mayo Country Ireland Record set Irish Births 1864-1958 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Ireland
There is also this birth at the same time (although the page numbers are 32 and 42 this could be a mistake):-
First name(s) Michael Last name Burke Registration year 1906 Registered quarter/year Apr - Jun 1906 Registration district Ballinrobe Volume 4 Page 32 Mother's last name (original) - County Galway, Mayo Country Ireland Record set Irish Births 1864-1958 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Ireland
Or, if they weren't twins then there is this possible birth for Michael:-
First name(s) Michael Last name Burke Registration year 1908 Registered quarter/year Apr - Jun 1908 Registration district Ballinrobe Volume 4 Page 35 Mother's last name (original) - County Galway, Mayo Country Ireland Record set Irish Births 1864-1958 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births Collections from Ireland
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ArgyllGran
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24 Oct 2020 09:36 |
None of the Martins whose births are on irishgenealogy.ie, 1904-1908, has the same DOB as your Martin (either 15 May 1906 or 15 June 1906.)
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Julia
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24 Oct 2020 09:26 |
So I have now been told that Martin had a brother, possibly a twin named Michael. I would imagine that is the Michael who who was the witness as Martins marriage.
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24 Oct 2020 02:25 |
Is this related?
Marriages Sep 1951 BOURKE Mary C TONRA Ealing 5e 626 TONRA Patrick J BOURKE Ealing 5e 626
Both born 1923 according to death records.
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23 Oct 2020 21:01 |
Trying to find out names of other family members, I will update as soon as I find anything. Thanks Everyone.
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