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George Alfred Watson/Nellie Bennett

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Susan

Susan Report 10 Oct 2020 19:14

I am trying to trace my grandparents family tree. They were from Grantham lincs. Nellie's mothers maiden name was King and I know we were related to the Parnhams of Ancaster lincs

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Oct 2020 19:30

What research have you done yourself?
No point in giving you information you already have!

Dates, for our reference:

Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
Bennett Nellie Watson Grantham 7a 1395
Watson George A Bennett Grantham 7a 1395


Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
BENNETT Nellie King Grantham 7a 792

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Oct 2020 19:42

More dates:


Nellie Parnham
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Nellie Parnham
[Nellie Watson]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1914
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Park Farm Cottages
Residence Place: West Kesteven, Lincolnshire (Parts of Kesteven), England
Occupation: Solders Wife-Evacuee <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Line Number: 32
Schedule Number: 29
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: TJHF
Borough: West Kesteven
Registration District: 417/1.
Household Members:
Name
William Parnham - 21 Oct 1881
Sarah A Parnham - 8 June 1883
Rachael G Parnham - 18 May 1917
John E Parnham - 4 Nov 1922
Nellie Parnham


Parnham was written as her surname by mistake, and corrected to Watson.
As you say there's a family connection with Parnhams, she must have been evacuated to stay with them while George was away in the army.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 09:27

Nellie's parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
BENNETT John Francis Spalding 7a 820
KING Emma Spalding 7a 820


John Bennett
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Bennett
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Hongington and Belton
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Honington Grantham
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Waggener (on Farm)
Registration District: Grantham
Registration District Number: 417
Sub-registration District: Grantham North
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 19689
Household Members:
Name Age
John Bennett 30
Emma Bennett 30
Annie Bennett 1
Walter Lord 19 - servant, horseman on farm


BENNETT, ANNIE mms KING
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 449


John's birth:

BENNETT, JOHN FRANCIS mms HODGKIN COLSTERWORTH
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 468


Emma with parents and siblings:

Emma King
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Emma King
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1882
Father: George King
Mother: Ann King
Birth Place: Baston, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Baston
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Residence Place: Baston, Baston, Lincolnshire, England
Registration District: Bourn
Sub registration district: Deeping
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2558
Folio: 76
Household Members:
Name Age
George King 50 - Cambridge
Ann King 48 - Langtoft, Lincs.
John E King 19
Alfred King 16
Caroline King 12
Emma King 9
Sophia King 8
Elizabeth King 2


Her parents' marriage:

Ann Barford
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ann Barford
Registration Year:
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Bourne
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 534
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Barford
George King


Ann Barford's birth:

BARFORD, ANN ELIZABETH mms HICKLING
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in BOURN Volume 14 Page 323


1881 says George was born in Isleham, Cambs; 1871 says Ely, Cambs.

So his birth?
KING, GEORGE CASSELDINE mms CUTTRISS
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in ELY UNION Volume 14 Page 53

No immediately obvious Parnham connection on Nellie Bennett's side of the family.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 09:59

Re the Parnham family in 1939:

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Parnham Rachel G Clark Grantham 7a 713


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
Parnham William Watson Grantham 7a 1003
Watson Sarah A Parnham Grantham 7a 1003



William in 1891 ???:

William Ruman
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Ruman
[William Parnham]
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship: Stepson
Birth Year: 1881
Mother: Fanny Clayton
Birth Place: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Wavertree
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Residence Place: Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Registration District: West Derby
Sub registration district: Wavertree
ED, Institution or Vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 3002
Folio: 106
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Clayton 34
Fanny Clayton 34
William Ruman 10
Jane Clayton 9
Charles Clayton 1 - Wavertree, Lancs


CLAYTON, CHARLES mms PARNHAM
GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 595

CLAYTON, JANE mms PARNHAM
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in SLEAFORD Volume 07A Page 464


Mother's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
CLAYTON Joseph Sleaford 7a 632
PARNHAM Fanny Sleaford 7a 632


In which case this would be William's birth - a couple of years out :

PARNHAM, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in SLEAFORD Volume 07A Page 458

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 10:03

Fanny Parnham
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Fanny Parnham
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Sarah Parnham
Gender: Female
Where born: Sleaford
Civil Parish: New Quarrington
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 London Road
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Washerwoman
Registration District: Sleaford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 3223
Folio: 76
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Parnham 60
Fanny Parnham 25
John Parnham 26
William Parnham 1 <<<<<<<<<<
Frank Winfield 38
James Doubleday 32

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 10:20

Going back to William's wife Sarah A Watson;

Sarah Ann Parnham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Sarah Ann Parnham
Death Age: 89
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1883
Registration Date:
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 196



???

Sarah A Watson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Sarah A Watson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Stepdaughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London Thorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Braceby
Ecclesiastical parish: Braceby St Margaret
Town: Braceby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration District: Grantham
Sub-registration District: Grantham South
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 3052
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household Schedule Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Kitchen 46 - widower
Sarah A Watson 19


Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
KITCHEN Joseph Grantham 7a 1147
Watson Alice Grantham 7a 1147


Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
Kitchen Alice 40 Grantham 7a 285


Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
HUTHWAITE Alice Grantham 7a 677
WATSON Charles Grantham 7a 677


HUTHWAITE, ALICE mms CHARITY
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 395


Sarah Ann's birth:

WATSON, SARAH ANN mms HUTHWAITE
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 461

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Oct 2020 11:53

Name: George Alfred Watson
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1914
Registration Date: Jul 1984
Registration District: Grantham
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1346

GEORGE A
Last name WATSON
Birth year 1914
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Clark
District Grantham

HENRY
Last name WATSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1910


HENRY WATSON married one of these people

Sarah A Clark, Mary E Atter
District Grantham
District number -
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Volume 7A
Volume as transcribed 7A
Page number 1091

?????
1911 Census For England & Wales

Cringle Farm Stoke Grantham, South Stoke, Lincolnshire, England
lationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Watson Head Married Male 29 1882 Farm Labourer Borderville Nr Stamfordshire
Sarah Ann Watson Wife Married Female 27 1884 - Hough on the Hill Lincs
William Henry Clark Son - Male 2 1909 - Ryhall Heath Nr Stamford Rutland
Svend Clage Sind Boarder Single Male 23 1888 Working On Farm Cattleman Denmark Visitor

10 Manthorpe Road, Grantham, Grantham M.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Kesteven), England
1939
(2 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William H Clark 24 Jan 1909 Male General Labourer Married 73 1
Ivy Clark 21 Jun 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 73 2

WILLIAM HENRY
Last name CLARK
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Clark
District Stamford

WILLIAM H
Last name CLARKE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1935
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


WILLIAM H CLARKE married one of these people

Ivy Whitbread
Spouse's last name Whitbread
District Grantham

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Oct 2020 12:36

Name: Henry Watson
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Birth Date: 1881
Marriage Date: 14 Dec 1910
Marriage Place: South Stoke, Lincs, Eng
Father: Henry Watson
Spouse: Sarah Ann Clark
FHL Film Number: 1450485
Reference ID: 2:3VZVB2L

1891
Name: Henry Watson
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1882
Father: Henry Watson
Mother: Emma Watson
Birth Place: Stamford, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Great Casterton
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Casterton
Residence Place: Great Casterton, Great Casterton, Rutland, England
Registration District: Stamford
Sub registration district: Stamford
ED, Institution or Vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Piece: 2553
Folio: 88
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Watson 32
Emma Watson 34
John Watson 11
Henry Watson 9
Mathew Watson 6
Harry Watson 3
Harry Munton 17

Name: Henry Watson
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1858
Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1879
Marriage Place: Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England
Father: Matthew Watson
Spouse: Emma Falkner
FHL Film Number: 1542365
Reference ID: p198 rn395

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 12:39

Susan -

you say, "I know we were related to the Parnhams of Ancaster".

What is the relationship, please?

Susan

Susan Report 11 Oct 2020 13:36

Rachel was known as Auntie Rachel when we were kids. And I know great grandad parnham was known as pops, He lived with Auntie Rachel just off Dysart Rd, Grantham. Just down from the chip shop. But I'm not sure if it was on Nellie's side or Georges side.

Susan

Susan Report 11 Oct 2020 13:50

Nellie and George were my Grandparents, my mum was one of there 3 daughters, Elizabeth Ann.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 14:05

You say "great grandad parnham".

Do you mean YOUR great grandad? Or Rachel's? What was his first name?
Do you mean Rachels father William?

If his name was Parnham, he can't have been the father of either Nellie or George.

Is it possible that the Parnhams weren't related to Nellie and George at all? Maybe Rachel was just an honorary "auntie" because the families became very friendly because of Nellie living with them during the war?


Or maybe the Watson or Bennett families were already friendly with the Parnhams before the war.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 14:15

Rachel's marriage:

Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
Parnham Rachel G Short Grantham 7a 1799
Short Stanley J Parnham Grantham 7a 1799


and death:

Ms Rachel Gertrude Short
in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019
Name: Ms Rachel Gertrude Short
Gender: Female
Age: 98
Birth Date: 1917
Last Residence: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
Postal Code District: NG31
Death Date: 18 Jun 2015


Her husband died in 1971:

Stanley James Short
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Stanley James Short
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1913
Registration Date:
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 263

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Oct 2020 16:10

The fact that you called someone 'Auntie' doesn't mean she was a relative.

It used to be a way for a child to address an adult with whom his or her parents were very friendly.............less formal than Miss or Mrs, but more polite than using just the first name, as happens nowadays

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Oct 2020 19:44

and veil, and carried a bouquet of red carnations and gypsophila. She was attended by her stepsisters, the Misses Rachel and Sylvia Parnham, who wore pretty frilled dresses of salmon-pink ray-de-Chene, and blue crinoline hats, with brown shoes, and carried
11 August 1934 - Grantham Journal - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England.
.
could this possibly be the above wedding/?and the Parnham and Watson connection.?

?Marriages Sep 1934 (>99%)
Ashford Harold Watson Grantham 7a 1425 Scan available - click to view.
Watson Phyllis Ashford Grantham 7a 1425 Scan available - click to view




Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Watson Phyllis >>> Clark<<<< Grantham 7a 811.






also..


ANCASTER
accelerated her death. On Sunday morning, quite a gloom overspread the village, when it became Known that young girl named Rachel Parnham had passed away, at the early age of seventeen years. Some time ago, she was attacked with erysipelas, from which she
26 May 1906 - Grantham Journal - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England.

Related.? possibly to older William Parnham ---,,a niece?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 23:46

The death mentioned above.

Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
Parnham Rachel 17 Sleaford 7a 248


?? Birth ?

PARNHAM, RACHEL mms DABLE
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 497

That's interesting -
when I was looking earlier for William Parnham's birth c1883 (Rachel 1917's father), and eventually decided on the illegitimate birth in Sleaford in 1879 (posted at 09:59), even though it was a bit early, the one I had considered at first was this:

PARNHAM, WILLIAM mms DABLE
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 482

I had dismissed it because I thought his mother was unmarried - but now it looks as if Fanny Parnham wasn't his mother after all. See the post at 09:59.


Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Oct 2020 23:59

Name: Phyllis Ashford
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: 19 Nov 1911
Registration Date: Feb 1998
Registration District: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Register Number: 53
District and Subdistrict: 6161
Entry Number: 251.


Name: Harold Ashford
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1913
Registration Date: Sep 1991
Registration District: Bedford
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: 9
Page: 133

Looks like Phyllis returned to her home town after Harold died.
.
In 1939 Harold and Phyllis are living in Bedford and where seems they made their home.and dont appear to have had any children,?


Phyllis seems to be the daughter of Sarah Parnham ,formally Watson.maiden name of Clark.!.?

Message , from Susan thanks ---,recalls Phyllis being named by family.so appears the right family.






ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2020 00:14

Parnham/Dable marriage:

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
DABEL Fanny Grantham 7a 691
PARNHAM George Grantham 7a 691


George Parnham
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: George Parnham
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 16 Jul 1878
Marriage Place: Ancaster,Lincoln,England
Spouse: Fanny Dabel


George Parnham
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Parnham
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Fanny Parnham
Gender: Male
Where born: Ancaster, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Ancaster
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Labourer
Registration District: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors:
Piece: 3233
Folio: 124
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Parnham 25
Fanny Parnham 20 - Corwland, Lincs.
John Parnham 1
Christoph. Pridmore 30 - boarder
Sarah E. Pridmore 24 - boarder



PARNHAM, JOHN mms DABLE
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in GRANTHAM Volume 07A Page 491

Kay????

Kay???? Report 12 Oct 2020 08:31

Name: Rachel Parnham
Gender: Female
Age: 2
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1889
Father: Geo Parnham
Mother: Fanny Parnham
Birth Place: Ancaster, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Ancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Ancaster
Residence Place: Ancaster, Ancaster, Lincolnshire, England
Registration District: Grantham
Sub registration district: Grantham North
ED, Institution or Vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2586
Folio: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Parnham 34
Fanny Parnham 30
John Parnham 11
William Parnham 8>>>>married Sarah- Watson ---Clark.?
Charles Parnham 5
Rachel Parnham 2>>>>>>>>died 1906.