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On a tree in Ancestry there is a death of an Isaac Gordon Prosser b 1836 d 1872 in Nova Scotia

Can anyone tell me if there are any more details on the death please

This one? Born c 1834 Aberystruth, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire

Named as Algernon "Isaac" Gordon Prosser on some trees, just Isaac on others.

Died 1.8.1872 at Yarmouth, Nova Scotia

There are 31 trees, none appear to have more than I've posted about his death

no record attached
can't see any record on ancestry

He's on 33 trees on Ancestry, and most give his name as Algernon "Isaac" Gordon Prosser, born 1834 in Abergavenny.

Most say he died 1 Aug 1872 in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia.

One gives a link to an obituary, but I can't open it.
None of them give documentary proof.


I can't see a death record on Ancestry .

In 1871 he was living in Yarmouth, so it seems reasonable to assume that he died there:

A J G Prosser
in the 1871 Census of Canada
Name: A J G Prosser
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Widowed: M
Origin: Welsh
Age: 36
Birth Date: 1835
Birth Place: Wales
Residence Place: Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
District Number: 192
Subdistrict: c
Division: 03
Religion: Church Of England
Occupation: Brass Founder
Family Number: 203
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
A J G Prosser 36
Maria Prosser 38
Charlotte H Prosser 6
Hy Gordon Prosser 4
Anna Maria Prosser 20
Emeline C Prosser 18
Allen 16 [ Margt F Prosser on image ]
Henry J Allen 24
Andrew Defrates 36
Dennis Ryan 25
Edwd Hawkins 19

Thank you

My problem is my ancestor Harriet Ballard married Isaac Prosser in 1854 (no other names on the certificate). Isaac was an iron moulder father Roger a carpenter.

I have never found Isaac on any census with Harriet but she always says she is married until her death certificate which says ‘widow of’ in 1898

The Prossers seem to be a bit of a complicated family

For our reference:

Isaac Prosser
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Isaac Prosser
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 May 1854
Marriage Place: Bromham,Wiltshire,England
Spouse: Harriott Ballard
FHL Film Number: 0950238, 0950256


baptism of daughter:

Harriet Jane Prosser
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Harriet Jane Prosser
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 May 1855
Baptism Place: Bromham,Wiltshire,England
Father: Isaac Prosser
Mother: Harriet
FHL Film Number: 950238, 950256

PROSSER, HARRIET JANE mms BALLARD
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in MELKSHAM Volume 05A Page 105



Her death ??

PROSSER, HARRIET JANE 2
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 15

I hadn’t actually found that Harriet Jane being more interested in Harriet & Isaac’s daughter Emma b 1859 in Abergavenny where Harriet lived for the rest of her life.

So thank you for that one.

I suspect the Isaac Gordon in Novia Scotia May be a red herring as who are Anna Maria & emmeline? As far as I know he did not have any sisters of that name but will look further into that.

Other children:

PROSSER, DISSEYJULIUS mms BALLARD
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in CIRENCESTER Volume 06A Page 304

This child is on GRO website as male, but is actually female.
Name on image of Index is Dissey Julia.

Death:

PROSSER, DISSEY JULIA 1
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in STOCKTON Volume 10A Page 22




PROSSER, EMMA mms BALLARD
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 11A Page 57



Hannah Prosser
in the 1871 Wales Census
Name: Hannah Prosser
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bromham, Wiltshire, England <<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Abergavenny
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
Town: Abergavenny
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration District: Abergavenny
Sub-registration District: Abergavenny
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 34
Piece: 5309
Folio: 25
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Prosser 43 - widow [ looks like Harriet on image ]
Albert C Prosser 18 - son, Bath, Somerset
Emma Prosser 11
Robert Prosser 19 - nephew, born USA


BALLARD, ALBERT CHARLES PARSONS -
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 737

Found Algernon's death on FS:

Algernon I G Prosser
Canada Deaths and Burials, 1664-1955
Name: Algernon I G Prosser
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 1 Aug 1872
Event Place: Nova Scotia, Canada
Event Place (Original): Yarmouth, Yarmouth
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Marital Status: Married
Birth Year (Estimated): 1834
Birthplace: Aberiphucth, Wales

Father: "not known".
Cause of death: dropsy

In 1861 Harriet says she's married:

Albert Ballard
in the 1861 Wales Census
Name: Albert Ballard
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil Parish or Township: Abergavenny
Town: Abergavenny
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Abergavenny
Sub-registration District: Abergavenny
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 86
Neighbors:
Piece: 3993
Folio: 24
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Prosser 33
Emma Prosser 1
Albert Ballard 8

Don't know where the name Algernon Gordon came from.

Isaac's with his parents and siblings in Abergavenny in 1841 and 1851.

Isaac Prosser
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Isaac Prosser
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1833
Departure Place: Weymouth, Nova Scotia
Arrival Date: 20 Jan 1863
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Gold Hunter

On the record above he's a mechanic, born England.


He's just Isaac on his son's marriage record:

Henry G Prosser
in the Massachusetts, Marriage Records, 1840-1915
Name: Henry G Prosser
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birth Place: Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
Marriage Date: 27 Aug 1905
Marriage Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Isaac Prosser
Mother: Maria Edwards
Spouse: Annie L Bent



???

Isaac Prosser
in the U.S., Civil War Draft Registrations Records, 1863-1865
Name: Isaac Prosser
Birth Year: abt 1837
Place of birth: England
Age on 1 July 1863: 26
Race: White
Marital status: Married
Residence: Massachusetts
Congressional District: 4th
Class: 1

Occupation: Moulder.



???
A Pendrigh Prosser [ Prosser & Pendrigh onimage ]
in the Canada, City and Area Directories, 1819-1906
Name: A Pendrigh Prosser
Residence Year: 1867
Residence Place: Nova Scotia [ Yarmouth ]
Occupation: bra [ Brass and Bell Founders on image ]
Publication Title: Hutchinson’s Nova Scotia Directory, 1866-1867

Thank you . I have Harriet in Abergavenny up until her death plus her marriage and death Certificates and Emma’s birth & marriage certificate. I have Emma who married Thomas Morgan Watkins up to her death.

I have swapped from my desktop to my iPad at the moment (G&T time downstairs!) so have not got all my information to hand but I think I have albert’s birth certificate as well.

Dissed Julia is interesting as that is another I have not seen before. I have only just gone back to the Prosser family research in the last week or so (Lancashire tight lockdown!)

On harriet’s marriage certificate Isaac was living in ?Trowbridge which is in Melksham registrations district so that Harriet jane birth seems even more likely

Emma's is the last Prosser/Ballard birth, so presumably Isaac departed for Canada some time between the summer of 1858 and January 1863.

Probably before the 1861 census, as I don't see him anywhere in England/Wales then.

I did wonder if Isaac and Harriet divorced and Harriet just went back to Abergavenny and pretended to be a widow.

More likely in those days, they didn't divorce, as it was expensive and difficult, but only separated.

I agree Harriet probably said she was a widow for respectability.
Probably she didn't know if Isaac was alive or dead once he'd gone off to Canada - if she even knew where he'd gone.

Harriet was born in Wiltshire, so she she didn't "go back" to Abergavenny..
Perhaps they had moved to Abergavenny before Isaac left (in fact, before Emma was born), and then she just stayed there, near her in-laws.

Yes - ‘go back’ was the wrong phrase. Blame my slip on the fact that my father’s family came from the Abergavenny area for generations

Emma’s in-laws were slightly different. Her father in law was from an Abergavenny area family but her mother in law in all census returns (Except 1) said she was from Bermondsey which strangely I found this afternoon at least 2 of isaac’s brothers went to and married. I have never found her in-laws marriage in spite of trying one or two certificates.

Thank you ArgyllGran for all your input. It has certainly given me a few points to think about.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

1871 https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1871&op=pdf&id=4396323_00288
The census image is also available as a jpg:
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1871&op=&img&id=4396323_00288



https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

H. Gordon Prosser, born 1867 in Yarmouth, Yarmouth County
Item can be found in Registration Year: 1867 - Book: 1823 - Page: 47 - Number: 448

This looks like his NS widow (a=39)
He was a moulder from Londonderry and a widower
Maria Prosser and John Havlin married 1873 in Yarmouth County
Item can be found in Registration Year: 1873 - Book: 1839 - Page: 74 - Number: 90

Algernon J. G. Prosser, died 1872 in Yarmouth, Yarmouth County
Item can be found in Registration Year: 1872 - Book: 1818 - Page: 77 - Number: 209

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Since 1 GBP = C$1.71, hey should cost 6-7 GBP each (nearer 7)