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8 Oct 2020 15:17 |
Thank you Maddie, Ive just found those details but its nice to have confirmation. Edward is using his step fathers surname, not his birth name.
1871 census 6 Williams Buildings, Tower Hamlets,Mile End Old Town. Edward Loder age 25 general labourer born Ratcliffe Mary Ann Loder age 23 I am unsure if this is him?? What do you think? " "
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8 Oct 2020 13:48 |
411, Cambridge Road, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England 1881 First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edward Loader Head Widower Male 35 1846 Deal Porter Ratcliff, Middlesex, England
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8 Oct 2020 13:21 |
Edward George Last name Jeeves Birth year 1846 Birth date 08/08/1846 Baptism year 1846 Baptism date 04 Sep 1846 Address Workhouse Wapping Father's first name(s) - Mother's first name(s) Ann Parish St John, Wapping Church address Green Bank
1891 Name: Edward Loader Gender: Male Age: 44 Relationship: Boarder Birth Year: 1847 Birth Place: St George in the East, London, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Simons Zelotes Residence Place: London, Bethnal Green, London, England Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub registration district: Bethnal Green East ED, Institution or Vessel: 16 Neighbors: Piece: 271 Folio: 137 Household Members: Name Age George H Bell 23 Francis E E Bell 27 Edward Loader 44 -- widower
County Middlesex
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ErikaH
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8 Oct 2020 13:08 |
I posted his birth - and you've been given 1851/1861 censuses
Try looking on freebmd
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Rose
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8 Oct 2020 13:01 |
ErikaH Must be another Martha as on the 1861 census she is living with Ann Loader and the rest of the family.
Can someone please help me find any details on Edward George Jeeves/Loader born Wapping 1846 mother Ann Jeeves
Thank you Rose
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7 Oct 2020 17:05 |
Name: William Loader Estimated Age: 53 Birth Date: 1798 Birth Place: Weymouth, Dorset Issue Date: 14 Apr 1851 Issue Port: London Certificate Number: 306
1851 Name: William Loader Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Weymouth, Devon, England Civil Parish: Limehouse County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Stepney Sub-registration District: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 61 Piece: 1554 Folio: 597 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Philip Bradley 58 Ann Bradley 51 Emma Bradley 23 Sarah Bradley 21 Philip Bradley 17 William Loader 57 Rosina Konsmouth 19
1861 Name: William Loader Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: 1797 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Weymouth, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Limehouse Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Stepney Sub-registration District: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 29 Piece: 288 Folio: 102 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Phillip Bradley 68 Ann M Bradley 64 Emma Bradley 25 William Loader 64 Anne Seymour 25 Ellen Smith 20
Name: William Loader Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 11 Jun 1797 Baptism Place: Weymouth St Paul, Dorset, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Loader Mother: Elizth Loader
Name: William Loader Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798 Registration Year: 1867 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 69 Registration District: Stepney Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 379
Name: Wm Loader Age: 70 Birth Date: abt 1797 Burial Date: 7 Feb 1867 Burial Place: London, England Reference Number: CTHC/01/048 limehouse
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Maddie
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7 Oct 2020 16:56 |
he had a brother Richard Last name Loader Birth year - Baptism year 1821 Baptism date 14 Dec 1821 Baptism place Melcombe Regis Church St Mary Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Mary Notes Mariner County Dorset Country England
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ArgyllGran
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7 Oct 2020 16:23 |
???
Robt Loader in the 1841 England Census Name: Robt Loader Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Dorset, England Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis Hundred: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: Weymouth Sub-registration District: Weymouth Neighbors: Piece: 295 Book: 16 Folio: 43 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Robt Tudge 50 Martha Tudge 50 Elizth Tudge 21 Cecelia Tudge 15 Weyland Tudge 13 Fanny Tudge 9 James Henidge 15 Robt Loader 15
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No, that might be this one:
Robert Loader in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 Name: Robert Loader Gender: Male Christening Date: 25 Dec 1825 Christening Place: Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Robert Loader Mother: Mary Loader
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7 Oct 2020 16:12 |
this one Robert Last name Loader Birth year - Baptism year 1821 Baptism date 14 Dec 1821 Baptism place Melcombe Regis Church St Mary Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Mary Notes Mariner County Dorset Country England Record set Dorset Baptisms
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Rose
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7 Oct 2020 16:09 |
Maddie a perfect fit BUT I am confused
Why is Ann visiting a married Robert Louder born in Dorset, parents Robert and Mary Loader when according to Ann and Roberts marriage certificate states he is a bachelor and his father as William Loader, shipwright. The premises being Manor Court, Stepney. OMG Just found another Loader family in Dorset, William and Mary Loader son Robert born 14/12/1821, father is a Mariner.
Richard kept his name, he married Hannah Kinley in Dec 1863, Stepney My gg grandfather was one of the witnesses . They had one daughter Hannah who married John Wood. Probate 30/3/1900 to his daughter Hannah Wood.
What a find, thank you so much Rose x
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ArgyllGran
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7 Oct 2020 16:01 |
Maybe a possibiity for Robert:
Robert Jeffres in the 1851 England Census Name: Robert Jeffres Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary Princes Road Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Lambeth Sub-registration District: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 05 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 19a Piece: 1572 Folio: 100 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Maria Cannon 49 William Cannon 24 James Cannon 20 Elizabeth Cannon 18 Elizas Cannon 13 George Cannon 8 Robert Jeffres 21 - smith, unmarried
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7 Oct 2020 16:00 |
??? ROBERT Last name JEEVES Gender Male 3 Death year 1855 District Stepney County London Volume 1C Page 358 Country England
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ArgyllGran
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7 Oct 2020 15:46 |
Possible death of Ann's father, if he was alive in 1853 but deceased by 1861 ??
JEVES, WILLIAM 87 GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 01C Page 338
(But not if Ann's father was 35 in 1841.)
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ErikaH
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7 Oct 2020 15:12 |
You posted that before ;-) ;-) ;-)
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Rose
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7 Oct 2020 15:10 |
Hello ladies, Thank you so much. This is the family I am looking for. Thought there may be more siblings for Ann and luckily you have found me 2 more.
Malyon Ann was born Limehouse Middlesex.
Robert Jeves was witness at Ann's wedding to Robert Loader
The dates for William Jeeves do not fit sadly as according to when Ann married Henry in 1861 he was deceased.
Thank you so much now to see if I can find Martha and Robert
Rose x
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ErikaH
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7 Oct 2020 14:51 |
????????????? 1861 Name: Martha Jeeves Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: 1827 Gender: Female Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Stepney St Dunstan County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration District: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Western ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 118 Piece: 293 Folio: 32 Page Number: 26 Name Age George Wright 51 Calia A Wright 61 Fanny S Wright 18 Maria L Wright 16 Maria M Wright 60 Cath L Wright 55 Martha Jeeves 34
Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%) Jeeves Martha 71 Poplar 1c 405
Name: Martha Jeeves Death Date: 27 Oct 1897 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 6 Nov 1897 Probate Registry: London, England Address; 46, Archibald Street, Bow Probate to Charles Oliver, Printer. Effects £395 1s 2d
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ErikaH
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7 Oct 2020 14:46 |
Robert was obviously alive in 1853, as per the marriage info I posted - Martha may have died pre-1841
I'm wondering if 'Richard' in 1841 was actually Robert, in view of the age. No baptism for a 'Richard'
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Rose
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7 Oct 2020 14:39 |
Hello ladies, Thank you so much. This is the family I am looking for. Thought there may be more siblings for Ann and luckily you have found me 2 more.
Malyon Ann was born Limehouse Middlesex.
Robert Jeves was witness at Ann's wedding to Robert Loader
The dates for William Jeeves do not fit sadly as according to when Ann married Henry in 1861 he was deceased.
Thank you so much now to see if I can find Martha and Robert
Rose x
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ErikaH
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7 Oct 2020 14:38 |
1841..............MAYBE
Name: Ann Jeffs Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Seymour Place Registration District: St Marylebone Sub-registration District: St Mary Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 679 Book: 7 Folio: 6 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Jeffs 35...................Cab Driver Elizabeth Jeffs 15 Ann Jeffs 15 Richard Jeffs 8
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7 Oct 2020 14:33 |
Name: Edward-george Jeeves Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1846 Baptism Place: Wapping, Tower Hamlets, England Mother: Ann Jeeves
JEEVES, EDWARD GEORGE - GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 541
So Edward 'Loader' was in fact Jeeves...........................father unknown
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