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Thanks Mary and Erika, there are a lot of family mentioned in the obituary as Grady was also married 3 or 4 times. I have found quite a few of them on Facebook, I think my next move will be to see if I can find Jo and Susan on Facebook and I may be able to ask them. With a bit of luck they may be a “friend” of one or two of the other siblings.

Also from the ER you found above it would seem that Joseph was living with his in laws prior to leaving for Canada with Audrey.

1948 Mark and Annie Maud Hippard at 72,Fordwych Road
1965 22,Cricklewood Broadway London NW2

No clue about Joseph.
When and where was son Joseph/Joe born as mentioned on obituary for Grady leon Brake
It says stepson Joe lewis and wife Susan .

Maryb

Wherever he was born, if the age he declared when travelling was accurate, he had to have been born before October 29th 1922

No birth in Scotland.

Death for a Joseph A lewis born 1923 died 1/1924 age 1 Bethnal Green 1c 165

Maryb.

I know, it was the same birth and death place, Bethnal Green. I looked for him on the 1939 register, also absent voters list. Actually I have run out of places to look. I did find an incoming passenger list for him in 1949, could be him, may not be, if it is then he was all over the world, India, Australia etc.

Have no idea what the A stands for.

As you say the marriage certificate is the route forward with this one.

Thank you for all your help again though.

Unless this was an extremely late registration, this person (mentioned by Shirley) would have been 31 in October 1954 - not 32 - as, indeed, would the person whose death you found

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)
Lewis Joseph A Collier Bethnal G. 1c 197

However, there is no record in 1939 matching the above birth, which would make sense if he died abroad, as the death would be unlikely to be picked up

The 1977 death you posted doesn't record a second forename.

There is no Joseph Lewis on 1939 register with a DoB of 2nd Dec 1922

If you want to be certain of your info, a copy of the marriage cert would be a worthwhile investment.

You would then know his second forename and father's details (if he knew them)

Without knowing his second forename, I don't think you will get far

All the family members I have spoken to told me she went to Canada, no one has ever mentioned USA. I am wondering if she split with Joseph, he came back to the UK, and if that is his death in 1979, she maybe went to America and re married in 1979, because she married Thornton in the name of Audrey Lewis. I have a copy of the bond.

That's the correct 1939 Maddie, but mine reads Audrey E Hippard.

Yes, divorced Harold Jacen Thornton in 1983, Tarrent,Texas, then married again to Grady Leon Brake (1929 to 2013) in 1986 in Tarrent,Texas.

She remarried in 1986 as Audrey e hippard so guess there was a divorce

???
1939
19 Lewis Terrace, Rhondda, Rhondda U.D., Glamorganshire, Wales

(6 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Mark Hippard 27 Apr 1898 Male Colliery Labr Below - 241 1
Anne M Hippard 29 Dec 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 241 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Audrey E Cross 08 Mar 1933 Female At School Single 241 5

Joseph Lewis
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Joseph Lewis
Death Age: 54
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1922
Registration Date: Oct 1977
[Nov 1977]
[Dec 1977]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Poplar and Bethnal Green
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1327

No problem Shirley, going by the birth you gave me, I just found this death. If it is him and he died in 1977, she was free to re marry in 1979. Am now thinking he came back to the UK.

My IPAD does that, very annoying!!

Ahhh just realised stupid iPad has been autocorrecting the name to hibbard !

Yes.

So if her record is open on the 1939 register her death must have been picked up


But not picking any 1939 register up

The marriage only shows her as Hippard

Marriages Dec 1953
HIPPARD Audrey E LEWIS Hampstead 5c 1416
LEWIS Joseph A HIPPARD Hampstead 5c 1416

Found her on the 1939 register, living at 19 Lewis Terrace,Rhondda, Glamorganshire, with her parents, Mark and Annie Maud Hippard.

Joseph birth poss mar qtr 1923 Bethnal Green

Other births but not for the London area which seems to be where they lived

Audrey was born 8th March 1933, MMN Martin. Volume 11a. Page 927. Pontypridd, Glamorganshire.