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18 Sep 2020 15:43 |
Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%) Coller Frederick H Fillalove Oldham 8d 1711 Fullalove Mary E Coller Oldham 8d 1711
1939 9 Western Road, Urmston, Urmston U.D., Lancashire, England Frederick H Coller 06 Sep 1892 Male Estate Agent & Valuer Married 82 1 Mary Emma Coller 11 Jun 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 82 2
First name(s) Frederick Herman Last name Coller Age 25 Birth year 1893 Service number 128739 Regiment Labour Corps Unit / Battalion 561st Home Service Employment Company Year 1918 Residence town Oldham Residence county Lancashire Residence country England Series WO 363 Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
First name(s) FREDERICK H Last name COLLER Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1893 Age 71 Death quarter 1 Death year 1964 District North East Cheshire County Cheshire
Someon was way out with her age!
Deaths Jun 1973 (>99%) COLLER MARY EMMA 11JE1914 MANCHESTER 10E 736
First name(s) Mary Emma Last name Coller Death year 1973 Death date 01 May 1973 Probate year 1974 Probate date 06 Jun 1974 Residence town Cheadle Hulme Registry Manchester County Cheshire
Children Births Sep 1921 (>99%) Coller Herman R Fullalove Oldham 8d 1062
Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%) Coller Herman R Sutcliffe Barton 8c 1225 Sutcliffe Dorothy Coller Barton 8c 1225
First name(s) HERMAN REX Last name COLLER Gender Male Birth day 13 Birth month 8 Birth year 1921 Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 2002 District Trafford District number 0151A Register number A52A Entry number 290 Date of registration mm/yy 0902 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Dec 1923 (>99%) COLLER Muriel M Fullalove Oldham 8d 869
Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%) Coller Muriel M Slack Barton 8c 1290 Slack Leslie J Coller Barton 8c 1290 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Births Mar 1927 (>99%) Coller Frederick D Fullalove Barton I. 8c 888
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17 Sep 2020 16:19 |
Name: Aaron Fullalove Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1854 Birth Date: abt 1853 Age: 11/12 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Place of Origin: England Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: USA Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA Ship Name: Queen of The West
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 38, Balfour Street, Oldham, Lancashire, England Aaron Fullalove Head Married Male 48 1853 Iron Turner Cheshire, England Hannah Fullalove Wife Married Female 38 1863 Cotton Weaver Oldham, Lancashire, England Edmund Fullalove Son - Male 9 1892 - Oldham, Lancashire, England Mary E Lord Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Oldham, Lancashire, England Florence E Lord Niece - Female 16 1885 Cotton Weaver Oldham, Lancashire, England
Marriage FULLALOVE Aaron LORD Hannah 1891 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/70/19
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Edmund LORD 1892 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/135/195
Someone made a mess of transcribing the enumerator's notes to the census sheet FULLALOVE Mary Emma LORD 1894 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/142/354
Name: Mary Emma Fullalove Gender: Female Birth Date: 11 Jun 1894 Birth Place: Manchester, England Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1894 Baptism Place: Greenacres, Manchester, England Church: Congregational Church Father Name: Aaron Fullalove Mother Name: Hannah Fullalove
Name: Edmund Fullalove Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Feb 1892 Birth Place: Manchester, England Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1892 Baptism Place: Greenacres, Manchester, England Church: Congregational Church Father Name: Aaron Fullalove Mother Name: Hannah Fullalove
Name: Edmund Fullalove Death Age: 32 Birth Date: abt 1892 Registration Date: Jul 1924 [Aug 1924] [Sep 1924] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Oldham
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17 Sep 2020 16:06 |
FULLALOVE Isabella WHITEHEAD John 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32 PLATT Isabella WHITEHEAD John 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32 WHITEHEAD John FULLALOVE Isabella 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32 WHITEHEAD John PLATT Isabella 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32
Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%) FULLALOVE William Ashton & C 20 23 Platt Isabel Ashton &c 20 23
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17 Sep 2020 14:09 |
First name(s) Annie Last name Fullalove Gender Female Age 23 Birth year 1890 Occupation SERVANT Departure year 1913 Departure day 8 Departure month 2 Departure port Liverpool Destination port Portland Destination PORTLAND State Oregon Country United States
Intending to settle in Canada
Arrival
Name: Annie Fullalove Gender: Female Arrival Age: 23 Birth Year: abt 1890 Departure Port: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 17 Feb 1913 Arrival Port: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Vessel: Canada
That's where the online trail ends, I'm afraid
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17 Sep 2020 14:03 |
Possibly the 'missing' birth registration, with inaccurate MMN
FULLALOVE Eliza Ann MOLESWORTH 1888 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/124/7
FULLALOVE Eliza HOLMES Harry 1914 St Peter, Oldham Oldham CEB/4/475
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Harry Holmes 06 Mar 1888 Male Genral Labourer Canten Engineering Married 5 1 Eliza (A) Holmes 07 Aug 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 5 2 Joyce Holmes 20 Jun 1931 Female At School Single 5 3
Births Sep 1916 (>99%) Holmes Eva Fullalove Oldham 8d 989
Births Sep 1931 (>99%) Holmes Joyce Fullalove Oldham 8d 1041
First name(s) JOYCE Last name HOLMES Gender Female Birth day 20 Birth month 6 Birth year 1931 Death quarter 1 Death year 2006 District Oldham District number 0071D Register number OD55B
1939 Spinesdale Tuberculosis Sanatorium Moorside, Oldham, Oldham C.B., Lancashire, England Eva Holmes 03 Jul 1916 Female Shop Assistant-Sweets & Tobacco Single 3 12
First name(s) EVA Last name HOLMES Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1916 Age 29 Death quarter 3 Death year 1945 District Oldham County Lancashire Volume 8D Page 636
So, no surviving descendants for Eliza
Deaths Dec 1978 (>99%) HOLMES ELIZA ANN 7AU1888 OLDHAM 39 109
Deaths Mar 1950 (>99%) Holmes Harry 61 Oldham 10f 50
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Eunice
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16 Sep 2020 20:09 |
Thank you for all of this, I can print it and pass it on to Rev Brenda, she will be delighted I know. x
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16 Sep 2020 16:39 |
Clara married Milton Wolfenden - then James Broadbent No children
Agnes married Herbert Liversidge - two sons
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Herbert Liversidge 12 Apr 1898 Male Reedmaker For Weaving Lo Married 246 1 Agnes Liversidge 28 Jun 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 246 2 Eric Liversidge 16 Jul 1923 Male Capstan Hand Meter Wor Apprentice Single 246 3 One closed record - son Norman
LIVERSIDGE, NORMAN 1925 GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2014 in Blackpool (581-1C) Entry Number 510726920
First name(s) AGNES Last name LIVERSIDGE Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1895 Age 59 Death quarter 2 Death year 1954 District Oldham
Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%) Brown Ida Liversidge Oldham 10f 126 Liversidge Eric Brown Oldham 10f 126
1939 10 Vine Street, Chadderton, Chadderton U.D., Lancashire, England Moses Brown 18 Nov 1897 Male Instrument Fitter Married 212 1 Lilian Brown 15 Aug 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 212 2 Ida Liversidge (Brown) 23 Nov 1923 Female Apprentice Raincoat Machine Single 212 3
First name(s) ERIC Last name LIVERSIDGE Gender Male Birth day 16 Birth month 7 Birth year 1923 Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 1979 District Oldham
First name(s) IDA Last name LIVERSIDGE Gender Female Birth day 23 Birth month 11 Birth year 1923 Death quarter 3 Death year 1998 District Oldham
One son - named after Eric's brother
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ErikaH
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16 Sep 2020 16:23 |
If the name of the deceased wasn’t Fullalove, you’d have no way of knowing whether any of the men commemorated was related without first doing a lot of detailed research.
With regard to living relatives, as Sydney was the only male child to survive, any people connected with this specific family would have different surnames, unless any of the girls gave birth to illegitimate sons.
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Eunice
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16 Sep 2020 15:19 |
Ok Thank you, ArgyllGran,it was a long shot but worth trying :-)
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16 Sep 2020 15:13 |
It doesn't look as if there's an online list of names on Oldham war memorial:
"Due to the enormity of the task this memorial has yet to be transcribed and if it is will probably end up being a searchable database" http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Lancashire/Oldham.html
There are 2688 names on the memorial: https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/10
Oldham WW2, if of interest:
http://www.oldhamwarmemorial.co.uk/
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Eunice
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16 Sep 2020 15:11 |
I found the info on Ancestry.com military pages. Boy but she must have been physically strong to have borne all those babies.....
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16 Sep 2020 14:13 |
A member named Deborah seems to have some of the names in her GR tree, although by no means all, so not sure how well-informed she is
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16 Sep 2020 14:12 |
In 1911, the mother said she'd had 17 - however, these are the births per Lancsbmd , which total only 16
FULLALOVE Florence WARDLEWORTH 1879 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/92/389 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Sarah WARDLEWORTH 1881 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/100/173 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Bertha WARDLEWORTH 1882 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/104/87 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Aaron WARDLEWORTH 1884 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/111/105 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Harold WARDLEWORTH 1886 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/116/307 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Annie WARDLEWORTH 1890 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/129/140 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Isabella WARDLEWORTH 1891 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/132/294 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1892 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Esther WARDLEWORTH 1892 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/135/206 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Agnes WARDLEWORTH 1894 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/142/429 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Mary Jane WARDLEWORTH 1895 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/146/405 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1896 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Sydney WARDLEWORTH 1896 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/150/301 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1899 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Joseph WARDLEWORTH 1899 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/157/230 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1901 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Aaron WARDLEWORTH 1901 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/163/154 FULLALOVE John WARDLEWORTH 1901 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/163/155 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1902 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Frank WARDLEWORTH 1902 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/167/424 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1904 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference FULLALOVE Clara WARDLEWORTH 1904 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/173/383
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16 Sep 2020 14:00 |
Can't see ANY military info for Frank Fullalove other than one born 1893 in S Wales
Which site did you use to find the info you refer to?
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Eunice
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16 Sep 2020 13:55 |
re the death, yes I think it probably is - looking for him all over there are few named Frank! I did find a little war record pertaining to a Frank Fullalove from Oldham, so I did wonder if....and this is a long shot......that he went in either at the end of WW1 as a very young recruit, or went out to Basra like Joseph his brother who was killed in 1920 when all the separation wars were going on, but did he return home injured, and subsequently died from those injuries? That of course just might be my imagination wanting to tidy things up!!!!!! I guess the only thing to do eventually will be to purchase that death cert and see if there is a connection.....
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16 Sep 2020 13:55 |
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John Whitehead Head - Male 49 1822 - Lancashire, England Isabella Whitehead Wife - Female 47 1824 - Lancashire, England John Fullalove Son - Male 22 1849 - Canada Aaron Fullalove Son - Male 18 1853 - Lancashire, England Joseph Fullalove Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Edmund Fullalove Son - Male 0 1871 - Lancashire, England
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16 Sep 2020 13:51 |
PRIVATE J FULLALOVE Service Number: 3514002 Regiment & Unit/Ship Manchester Regiment (89933). 2nd Bn. Died 24 July 1920 Buried or commemorated at BASRA MEMORIAL Panel 31 and 64. Iraq
H FULLALOVE Service Number: 23848 Regiment & Unit/Ship King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment 6th Bn. Died 13 January 1917 Buried or commemorated at AMARA WAR CEMETERY XXIII. M. 15. Iraq
As you will have noted already, there weren't 5 male children alive in 1911
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Eunice
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16 Sep 2020 13:51 |
Yes I have seen those census reports...pretty depressing reading isn't it? to lose so many children...but sadly a sign of the times as I discovered from my own family tree history :-(
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16 Sep 2020 13:48 |
First name(s) FRANK Last name FULLALOVE Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1902 Age 18 Death quarter 4 Death year 1920 District Oldham
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Eunice
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16 Sep 2020 13:48 |
Thanks, I will give that a try shortly. The only reason I put it on here was that Brenda seems to think that 4 brothers names were on the war memorial?She was born in 1933...maybe the four could have contained other family names? I just don't know.
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