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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Sep 2020 15:43

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Coller Frederick H Fillalove Oldham 8d 1711
Fullalove Mary E Coller Oldham 8d 1711

1939
9 Western Road, Urmston, Urmston U.D., Lancashire, England
Frederick H Coller 06 Sep 1892 Male Estate Agent & Valuer Married 82 1
Mary Emma Coller 11 Jun 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 82 2

First name(s) Frederick Herman
Last name Coller
Age 25
Birth year 1893
Service number 128739
Regiment Labour Corps
Unit / Battalion 561st Home Service Employment Company
Year 1918
Residence town Oldham
Residence county Lancashire
Residence country England
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'

First name(s) FREDERICK H
Last name COLLER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1893
Age 71
Death quarter 1
Death year 1964
District North East Cheshire
County Cheshire

Someon was way out with her age!

Deaths Jun 1973 (>99%)
COLLER MARY EMMA 11JE1914 MANCHESTER 10E 736


First name(s) Mary Emma
Last name Coller
Death year 1973
Death date 01 May 1973
Probate year 1974
Probate date 06 Jun 1974
Residence town Cheadle Hulme
Registry Manchester
County Cheshire

Children
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Coller Herman R Fullalove Oldham 8d 1062

Marriages Dec 1942 (>99%)
Coller Herman R Sutcliffe Barton 8c 1225
Sutcliffe Dorothy Coller Barton 8c 1225

First name(s) HERMAN REX
Last name COLLER
Gender Male
Birth day 13
Birth month 8
Birth year 1921
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 2002
District Trafford
District number 0151A
Register number A52A
Entry number 290
Date of registration mm/yy 0902
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Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
COLLER Muriel M Fullalove Oldham 8d 869

Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%)
Coller Muriel M Slack Barton 8c 1290
Slack Leslie J Coller Barton 8c 1290
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Births Mar 1927 (>99%)
Coller Frederick D Fullalove Barton I. 8c 888

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Sep 2020 16:19

Name: Aaron Fullalove
Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1854
Birth Date: abt 1853
Age: 11/12
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: USA
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Queen of The West

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
38, Balfour Street, Oldham, Lancashire, England
Aaron Fullalove Head Married Male 48 1853 Iron Turner Cheshire, England
Hannah Fullalove Wife Married Female 38 1863 Cotton Weaver Oldham, Lancashire, England
Edmund Fullalove Son - Male 9 1892 - Oldham, Lancashire, England
Mary E Lord Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Oldham, Lancashire, England
Florence E Lord Niece - Female 16 1885 Cotton Weaver Oldham, Lancashire, England

Marriage
FULLALOVE Aaron LORD Hannah 1891 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/70/19

Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Edmund LORD 1892 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/135/195

Someone made a mess of transcribing the enumerator's notes to the census sheet
FULLALOVE Mary Emma LORD 1894 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/142/354

Name: Mary Emma Fullalove
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Jun 1894
Birth Place: Manchester, England
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1894
Baptism Place: Greenacres, Manchester, England
Church: Congregational Church
Father Name: Aaron Fullalove
Mother Name: Hannah Fullalove


Name: Edmund Fullalove
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1892
Birth Place: Manchester, England
Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1892
Baptism Place: Greenacres, Manchester, England
Church: Congregational Church
Father Name: Aaron Fullalove
Mother Name: Hannah Fullalove

Name: Edmund Fullalove
Death Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Jul 1924
[Aug 1924]
[Sep 1924]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Oldham

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Sep 2020 16:06

FULLALOVE Isabella WHITEHEAD John 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32
PLATT Isabella WHITEHEAD John 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32
WHITEHEAD John FULLALOVE Isabella 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32
WHITEHEAD John PLATT Isabella 1868 Oldham Register Office or Registrar Attended Oldham RM/18/32


Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%)
FULLALOVE William Ashton & C 20 23
Platt Isabel Ashton &c 20 23

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Sep 2020 14:09

First name(s) Annie
Last name Fullalove
Gender Female
Age 23
Birth year 1890
Occupation SERVANT
Departure year 1913
Departure day 8
Departure month 2
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Portland
Destination PORTLAND
State Oregon
Country United States

Intending to settle in Canada

Arrival

Name: Annie Fullalove
Gender: Female
Arrival Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1890
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 17 Feb 1913
Arrival Port: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Vessel: Canada

That's where the online trail ends, I'm afraid

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Sep 2020 14:03

Possibly the 'missing' birth registration, with inaccurate MMN

FULLALOVE Eliza Ann MOLESWORTH 1888 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/124/7

FULLALOVE Eliza HOLMES Harry 1914 St Peter, Oldham Oldham CEB/4/475

1939

Harry Holmes 06 Mar 1888 Male Genral Labourer Canten Engineering Married 5 1
Eliza (A) Holmes 07 Aug 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 5 2
Joyce Holmes 20 Jun 1931 Female At School Single 5 3


Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Holmes Eva Fullalove Oldham 8d 989

Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Holmes Joyce Fullalove Oldham 8d 1041

First name(s) JOYCE
Last name HOLMES
Gender Female
Birth day 20
Birth month 6
Birth year 1931
Death quarter 1
Death year 2006
District Oldham
District number 0071D
Register number OD55B

1939
Spinesdale Tuberculosis Sanatorium Moorside, Oldham, Oldham C.B., Lancashire, England
Eva Holmes 03 Jul 1916 Female Shop Assistant-Sweets & Tobacco Single 3 12

First name(s) EVA
Last name HOLMES
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1916
Age 29
Death quarter 3
Death year 1945
District Oldham
County Lancashire
Volume 8D
Page 636

So, no surviving descendants for Eliza


Deaths Dec 1978 (>99%)
HOLMES ELIZA ANN 7AU1888 OLDHAM 39 109

Deaths Mar 1950 (>99%)
Holmes Harry 61 Oldham 10f 50

Eunice

Eunice Report 16 Sep 2020 20:09

Thank you for all of this, I can print it and pass it on to Rev Brenda, she will be delighted I know. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 16:39

Clara married Milton Wolfenden - then James Broadbent
No children

Agnes married Herbert Liversidge - two sons

1939

Herbert Liversidge 12 Apr 1898 Male Reedmaker For Weaving Lo Married 246 1
Agnes Liversidge 28 Jun 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 246 2
Eric Liversidge 16 Jul 1923 Male Capstan Hand Meter Wor Apprentice Single 246 3
One closed record - son Norman

LIVERSIDGE, NORMAN 1925
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2014 in Blackpool (581-1C) Entry Number 510726920

First name(s) AGNES
Last name LIVERSIDGE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1895
Age 59
Death quarter 2
Death year 1954
District Oldham

Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%)
Brown Ida Liversidge Oldham 10f 126
Liversidge Eric Brown Oldham 10f 126

1939
10 Vine Street, Chadderton, Chadderton U.D., Lancashire, England
Moses Brown 18 Nov 1897 Male Instrument Fitter Married 212 1
Lilian Brown 15 Aug 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 212 2
Ida Liversidge (Brown) 23 Nov 1923 Female Apprentice Raincoat Machine Single 212 3


First name(s) ERIC
Last name LIVERSIDGE
Gender Male
Birth day 16
Birth month 7
Birth year 1923
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1979
District Oldham

First name(s) IDA
Last name LIVERSIDGE
Gender Female
Birth day 23
Birth month 11
Birth year 1923
Death quarter 3
Death year 1998
District Oldham

One son - named after Eric's brother

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 16:23

If the name of the deceased wasn’t Fullalove, you’d have no way of knowing whether any of the men commemorated was related without first doing a lot of detailed research.

With regard to living relatives, as Sydney was the only male child to survive, any people connected with this specific family would have different surnames, unless any of the girls gave birth to illegitimate sons.

Eunice

Eunice Report 16 Sep 2020 15:19

Ok Thank you, ArgyllGran,it was a long shot but worth trying :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Sep 2020 15:13

It doesn't look as if there's an online list of names on Oldham war memorial:

"Due to the enormity of the task this memorial has yet to be transcribed and if it is will probably end up being a searchable database"
http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Lancashire/Oldham.html

There are 2688 names on the memorial:
https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/item/memorial/10

Oldham WW2, if of interest:

http://www.oldhamwarmemorial.co.uk/

Eunice

Eunice Report 16 Sep 2020 15:11

I found the info on Ancestry.com military pages. Boy but she must have been physically strong to have borne all those babies.....

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 14:13

A member named Deborah seems to have some of the names in her GR tree, although by no means all, so not sure how well-informed she is

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 14:12

In 1911, the mother said she'd had 17 - however, these are the births per Lancsbmd , which total only 16

FULLALOVE Florence WARDLEWORTH 1879 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/92/389
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Sarah WARDLEWORTH 1881 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/100/173
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Bertha WARDLEWORTH 1882 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/104/87
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1884
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Aaron WARDLEWORTH 1884 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/111/105
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Harold WARDLEWORTH 1886 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/116/307
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Annie WARDLEWORTH 1890 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/129/140
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Isabella WARDLEWORTH 1891 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/132/294
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1892
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Esther WARDLEWORTH 1892 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/135/206
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Agnes WARDLEWORTH 1894 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/142/429
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1895
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Mary Jane WARDLEWORTH 1895 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/146/405
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1896
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Sydney WARDLEWORTH 1896 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/150/301
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Joseph WARDLEWORTH 1899 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/157/230
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1901
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Aaron WARDLEWORTH 1901 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/163/154
FULLALOVE John WARDLEWORTH 1901 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/163/155
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Frank WARDLEWORTH 1902 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/167/424
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1904
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
FULLALOVE Clara WARDLEWORTH 1904 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/173/383

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 14:00

Can't see ANY military info for Frank Fullalove other than one born 1893 in S Wales

Which site did you use to find the info you refer to?

Eunice

Eunice Report 16 Sep 2020 13:55

re the death, yes I think it probably is - looking for him all over there are few named Frank! I did find a little war record pertaining to a Frank Fullalove from Oldham, so I did wonder if....and this is a long shot......that he went in either at the end of WW1 as a very young recruit, or went out to Basra like Joseph his brother who was killed in 1920 when all the separation wars were going on, but did he return home injured, and subsequently died from those injuries? That of course just might be my imagination wanting to tidy things up!!!!!! I guess the only thing to do eventually will be to purchase that death cert and see if there is a connection.....

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 13:55

1871

John Whitehead Head - Male 49 1822 - Lancashire, England
Isabella Whitehead Wife - Female 47 1824 - Lancashire, England
John Fullalove Son - Male 22 1849 - Canada
Aaron Fullalove Son - Male 18 1853 - Lancashire, England
Joseph Fullalove Son - Male 9 1862 - Lancashire, England
Edmund Fullalove Son - Male 0 1871 - Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 13:51

PRIVATE
J FULLALOVE
Service Number: 3514002
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Manchester Regiment
(89933). 2nd Bn.
Died 24 July 1920
Buried or commemorated at
BASRA MEMORIAL
Panel 31 and 64.
Iraq

H FULLALOVE
Service Number: 23848
Regiment & Unit/Ship
King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment
6th Bn.
Died 13 January 1917
Buried or commemorated at
AMARA WAR CEMETERY
XXIII. M. 15.
Iraq

As you will have noted already, there weren't 5 male children alive in 1911

Eunice

Eunice Report 16 Sep 2020 13:51

Yes I have seen those census reports...pretty depressing reading isn't it? to lose so many children...but sadly a sign of the times as I discovered from my own family tree history :-(

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Sep 2020 13:48

First name(s) FRANK
Last name FULLALOVE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1902
Age 18
Death quarter 4
Death year 1920
District Oldham

Eunice

Eunice Report 16 Sep 2020 13:48

Thanks, I will give that a try shortly. The only reason I put it on here was that Brenda seems to think that 4 brothers names were on the war memorial?She was born in 1933...maybe the four could have contained other family names? I just don't know.