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John Albert
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31 Aug 2020 16:55 |
can u help me please
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 16:57 |
'Help' in what way, please?
Where in the world was he born?
How did you work back to him?
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 16:59 |
Is THIS in any way relevant?
Name: Thomas Frank Payne Gender: Male Marriage Age: 28 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1865 Marriage Date: 22 May 1893 Marriage Place: St Philip the Apostle, Camberwell, Southwark, England Father: Frank Payne Spouse: Emma Marshall
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:00 |
Name: Thomas Frank Payne Age in 1911: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Lambeth Civil Parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 3 Bonamy Street, St James Rd, Old Kent Road S E Occupation: Fancy Leather Finisher Registration district: Camberwell Registration District Number: 27 Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Piece: 2541 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Frank Payne 46 Emma Payne 40 Lilian Maud Payne 14 William Frank Payne 12 Charles Alfred Payne 8 Thomas Arthur Payne 5 Elvy May Payne 2
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:01 |
1939
Name: Thomas Frank Payne Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 12 Oct 1864 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 3 Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England Occupation: Leather Finisher Retir?? Line Number: 18 Schedule Number: 117 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: AEOW Borough: Camberwell Registration district: 25-3. Inferred Spouse: Emma Payne Household Members: Name Thomas Frank Payne Emma Payne.......24 Sep 1870
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:02 |
1901
Name: Thomas F Payne Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Emma Payne Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Deptford Central ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 530 Folio: 182 Page Number: 58 Household schedule number: 419 Household Members: Name Age Thomas F Payne 36 Emma Payne 30 Lillian Payne 4 William Payne 2
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Maddie
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31 Aug 2020 17:07 |
1871 Name: Thomas Frank Payne Age: 6 Estimated birth year: 1865 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth Surrey England Civil Parish: Lambeth St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 664 Folio: 103 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Frank Payne 39 Kenneth Emma Payne 29 Thomas Frank Payne 6 Frank Mary Payne 3
1881 Name: Frank Payne Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Emma Payne Gender: Male Where born: Charring, Kent, England Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 24 John St Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Masons Labourer Registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 72a Neighbors: Piece: 653 Folio: 107 Page Number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Frank Payne 43 Emma Payne 39 Thomas Payne 16 Frances Payne 13 William Payne 9 Edward Payne 6
Frank Last name Payne Marital status Bachelor Banns year 1863 Banns date 08 Nov 1863 Marriage year - Marriage year 1863 Marriage place Charing, Ss Peter & Paul Spouse's first name(s) Emma Spouse's last name Taylor Spouse's condition Spinster County Kent Country England Archive Kent History & Library Centre Archive reference P78/1/C/1 Register type Banns Year range 1823-1884
Frank Last name Payne Baptism year 1837 Baptism date 19 Feb 1837 Place Charing, Ss Peter & Paul Relationship Son Of Father's first name(s) James Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name - Parent's occupation Labourer County Kent Country England Record source Charing baptisms 1590-1911
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:13 |
PAYNE, THOMAS FRANK TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 298
Name: Frank Payne Gender: Male Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1863 Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England Father: James Payne Spouse: Henrietta Emma Taylor
1871
Name: Frank Payne Age: 39 Estimated birth year: 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Charing Kent England Civil Parish: Lambeth St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 4 Piece: 664 Folio: 103 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Frank Payne 39 Kenneth Emma Payne 29...................Correction submitted Thomas Frank Payne 6 Frank Mary Payne 3
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:14 |
1901
Name: Frank Payne Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Emma Payne Birth Place: Ashford, Kent, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 521 Folio: 52 Page Number: 43 Household schedule number: 285 Household Members: Name Age Frank Payne 62 Emma Payne 57 Frances M Payne 33 James Payne 29 Charles H Payne 18
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:15 |
1881
Name: Frank Payne Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Emma Payne Gender: Male Where born: Charring, Kent, England Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 24 John St Marital status: Married Occupation: Masons Labourer Registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 72a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 653 Folio: 107 Page Number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Frank Payne 43 Emma Payne 39 Thomas Payne 16 Frances Payne 13 William Payne 9 Edward Payne 6
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ErikaH
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31 Aug 2020 17:18 |
1891
Name: Frank Payne Gender: Male Age: 51 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1840 Spouse: Emma Payne Child: Frances Payne William Payne Edward Payne Charles Payne Birth Place: Charing, Kent, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England
Name: Thomas Payne Gender: Male Age: 26 Relationship: Boarder Birth Year: 1865 Birth Place: Camberwell, London, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Residence Place: Christchurch, London, England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
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Maddie
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31 Aug 2020 17:20 |
EMMA Last name PAYNE Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1842 Age 60 Death quarter 1 Death year 1902 District Lambeth County London Volume 1D Page 267
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Maddie
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31 Aug 2020 17:28 |
grandparents 1841 Old Burn, Charing, West Ashford, Kent, England Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place James Payne Male 40 1801 Kent, England Mary Payne Female 35 1806 Kent, England Frances Payne Female 10 1831 Kent, England Rachell Payne Female 10 1831 Kent, England William Payne Male 5 1836 Kent, England Eudward Payne Male 5 1836 Kent, England
Frank Payne Male 4 1837 Kent, England Ellen Histed Female 20 1821 Kent, England Anna Histed Female 0 1841 Kent, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Aug 2020 20:33 |
Thomas Frank Payne Gender: Male Marital status: Widowed Age: 28 Birth Date: 1865 Marriage Date: 22 May 1893 Marriage Place: St. Philip, Camberwell, Surrey, England Father: Frank Payne Spouse: Emma Marshall FHL Film Number: 475329 Reference ID: v10 p70
So has been married before
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Aug 2020 20:37 |
Previous marriage
Marriages Jun 1890 Barker Adelaide Maria St. Saviour 1d 407 BARKER Adelaide Marie St. Saviour 1d 407 JENKIN Thomas St Saviour 1d 407 JENKINS Thomas St. Saviour 1d 407 PAYNE Thomas Frank St. Saviour 1d 407 WOODS Minnie St. Saviour 1d 407
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Aug 2020 20:40 |
Looks like was Minnie woods
Deaths Dec 1891 Payne Minnie 26 St. Olave 1d 193
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Sep 2020 10:35 |
They had one son
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: PAYNE, THOMAS FRANK WOODS GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in ST.OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 302 So named after his dad
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Sep 2020 10:37 |
Sadly looks like died as a very young baby
Thomas Frank Payne Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Registration Year: 1891 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 0 Registration district: St Olave Southwark Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 215
Name: Thomas F Payne Register Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1891 Burial or Cremation Date: 19 May 1891 Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England URL:
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Sep 2020 10:39 |
But they were on the 1891 census
Thomas F Payne Gender: Male Age: 3/12 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1891 Father: Thomas F Payne Mother: Minnie Payne Birth Place: Rotherhithe, London, England Civil Parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus Residence Place: Rotherhithe, Rotherhithe, London, England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub registration district: Rotherhithe ED, Institution or Vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 382 Folio: 123 Household Members: Name Age Thomas F Payne 36 occ fancy leather finisher Minnie Payne 25 Thomas F Payne 3/12
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Sep 2020 13:50 |
Possible death based on age
Deaths Jun 1946 Payne Thomas F 81 St.Albans 3a 1118
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