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Thomas frank payne d o b 1865

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John Albert

John Albert Report 31 Aug 2020 16:55

can u help me please

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 16:57

'Help' in what way, please?

Where in the world was he born?

How did you work back to him?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 16:59

Is THIS in any way relevant?

Name: Thomas Frank Payne
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1865
Marriage Date: 22 May 1893
Marriage Place: St Philip the Apostle, Camberwell, Southwark, England
Father: Frank Payne
Spouse: Emma Marshall

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:00

Name: Thomas Frank Payne
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lambeth
Civil Parish: Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 3 Bonamy Street, St James Rd, Old Kent Road S E
Occupation: Fancy Leather Finisher
Registration district: Camberwell
Registration District Number: 27
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 2541
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Frank Payne 46
Emma Payne 40
Lilian Maud Payne 14
William Frank Payne 12
Charles Alfred Payne 8
Thomas Arthur Payne 5
Elvy May Payne 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:01

1939

Name: Thomas Frank Payne
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1864
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3
Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England
Occupation: Leather Finisher Retir??
Line Number: 18
Schedule Number: 117
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: AEOW
Borough: Camberwell
Registration district: 25-3.
Inferred Spouse: Emma Payne
Household Members:
Name
Thomas Frank Payne
Emma Payne.......24 Sep 1870

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:02

1901

Name: Thomas F Payne
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Emma Payne
Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 530
Folio: 182
Page Number: 58
Household schedule number: 419
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas F Payne 36
Emma Payne 30
Lillian Payne 4
William Payne 2

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Aug 2020 17:07

1871
Name: Thomas Frank Payne
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: 1865
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth Surrey England
Civil Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 664
Folio: 103
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Payne 39
Kenneth Emma Payne 29
Thomas Frank Payne 6
Frank Mary Payne 3

1881
Name: Frank Payne
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emma Payne
Gender: Male
Where born: Charring, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 24 John St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Masons Labourer
Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 72a
Neighbors:
Piece: 653
Folio: 107
Page Number: 65
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Payne 43
Emma Payne 39
Thomas Payne 16
Frances Payne 13
William Payne 9
Edward Payne 6

Frank
Last name Payne
Marital status Bachelor
Banns year 1863
Banns date 08 Nov 1863
Marriage year -
Marriage year 1863
Marriage place Charing, Ss Peter & Paul
Spouse's first name(s) Emma
Spouse's last name Taylor
Spouse's condition Spinster
County Kent
Country England
Archive Kent History & Library Centre
Archive reference P78/1/C/1
Register type Banns
Year range 1823-1884

Frank
Last name Payne
Baptism year 1837
Baptism date 19 Feb 1837
Place Charing, Ss Peter & Paul
Relationship Son Of
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Parent's occupation Labourer
County Kent
Country England
Record source Charing baptisms 1590-1911

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:13

PAYNE, THOMAS FRANK TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 298

Name: Frank Payne
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1863
Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father: James Payne
Spouse: Henrietta Emma Taylor

1871

Name: Frank Payne
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: 1832
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Charing Kent England
Civil Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 664
Folio: 103
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Payne 39
Kenneth Emma Payne 29...................Correction submitted
Thomas Frank Payne 6
Frank Mary Payne 3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:14

1901

Name: Frank Payne
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Emma Payne
Birth Place: Ashford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 521
Folio: 52
Page Number: 43
Household schedule number: 285
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Payne 62
Emma Payne 57
Frances M Payne 33
James Payne 29
Charles H Payne 18

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:15

1881

Name: Frank Payne
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emma Payne
Gender: Male
Where born: Charring, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 24 John St
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Masons Labourer
Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 72a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 653
Folio: 107
Page Number: 65
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Payne 43
Emma Payne 39
Thomas Payne 16
Frances Payne 13
William Payne 9
Edward Payne 6

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2020 17:18

1891

Name: Frank Payne
Gender: Male
Age: 51
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1840
Spouse: Emma Payne
Child: Frances Payne
William Payne
Edward Payne
Charles Payne
Birth Place: Charing, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips
Residence Place: Camberwell, London, England




Name: Thomas Payne
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1865
Birth Place: Camberwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Christchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Residence Place: Christchurch, London, England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Aug 2020 17:20

EMMA
Last name PAYNE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1842
Age 60
Death quarter 1
Death year 1902
District Lambeth
County London
Volume 1D
Page 267

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Aug 2020 17:28

grandparents
1841
Old Burn, Charing, West Ashford, Kent, England
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Payne Male 40 1801 Kent, England
Mary Payne Female 35 1806 Kent, England
Frances Payne Female 10 1831 Kent, England
Rachell Payne Female 10 1831 Kent, England
William Payne Male 5 1836 Kent, England
Eudward Payne Male 5 1836 Kent, England


Frank Payne Male 4 1837 Kent, England
Ellen Histed Female 20 1821 Kent, England
Anna Histed Female 0 1841 Kent, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Aug 2020 20:33

Thomas Frank Payne
Gender: Male
Marital status: Widowed
Age: 28
Birth Date: 1865
Marriage Date: 22 May 1893
Marriage Place: St. Philip, Camberwell, Surrey, England
Father: Frank Payne
Spouse: Emma Marshall
FHL Film Number: 475329
Reference ID: v10 p70


So has been married before

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Aug 2020 20:37

Previous marriage

Marriages Jun 1890
Barker Adelaide Maria St. Saviour 1d 407
BARKER Adelaide Marie St. Saviour 1d 407
JENKIN Thomas St Saviour 1d 407
JENKINS Thomas St. Saviour 1d 407
PAYNE Thomas Frank St. Saviour 1d 407
WOODS Minnie St. Saviour 1d 407

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Aug 2020 20:40

Looks like was Minnie woods

Deaths Dec 1891
Payne Minnie 26 St. Olave 1d 193

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Sep 2020 10:35

They had one son



Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PAYNE, THOMAS FRANK WOODS
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in ST.OLAVE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 302

So named after his dad

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Sep 2020 10:37

Sadly looks like died as a very young baby

Thomas Frank Payne
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 215


Name: Thomas F Payne
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1891
Burial or Cremation Date: 19 May 1891
Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England
URL:

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Sep 2020 10:39

But they were on the 1891 census

Thomas F Payne
Gender: Male
Age: 3/12
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1891
Father: Thomas F Payne
Mother: Minnie Payne
Birth Place: Rotherhithe, London, England
Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
Residence Place: Rotherhithe, Rotherhithe, London, England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, Institution or Vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 382
Folio: 123
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas F Payne 36 occ fancy leather finisher
Minnie Payne 25
Thomas F Payne 3/12

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Sep 2020 13:50

Possible death based on age

Deaths Jun 1946
Payne Thomas F 81 St.Albans 3a 1118