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Mumbles

Mumbles Report 19 Aug 2020 18:38

Yes the half siblings are Gabriel and Susannah's children and Susannah's previous marriage was to a James Vallins so her name was Vallins when she married Gabriel not Follings, but being illiterate this is where mistakes come from: The three half siblings are Gabriel B1816 Susanna B1818 and George Bryney Finch B1823 all went to USA and died in Grundy Illinois:
As to the three other children Mary, Catherine and William that is correct they were born in Woolwich then Thomas and his brother James born in 1810 were born in Chatham: I have seen the baptisms on line at "City Ark" web site:
I am not sure that the 1841 census is the correct one I said that was the one that I also found and might be correct:
The query on if Mary's name could be Tye, I don't know but when I checked the marriage on "City Ark" the spelling looked like Teay but looking at the Banns it looked like Tiay:

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 19 Aug 2020 18:57

I was just wondering with many people being illiterate at that time and unable to tell whether things were spelt correctly together with a local accent that 'Tye' could have been written as 'Teay' by the Clerk...just a thought.

Mumbles

Mumbles Report 19 Aug 2020 19:18

Yes the half siblings are Gabriels & Susannah's children they are Gabriel B1816 Susanna B 1818 and George Bryney Finch B 1823: Susannah was previously married to a James Vallins in 1811 he died before 1815 when she married again it shows her as being Follings not Vallins when she married Gabriel, but that is due to her being illiterate and some one else writing what they thought she said :She had one child by James Vallins he was Henry, and lucky for me she kept his surname when she married again: Henry is my 2 x Grt grandfather and James and Susannah are my 3 x Grt Grandparents: If you look on the 1841 census you will see that living next door to Gabriel and Susannah is Henry Vallins: He also has one of his half siblings living with him:
I have seen both him and his seven half siblings with there birth dates written in the family bible:
As far as the 1841 census goes for Thomas I am not at all sure that the one fond is correct it just happens to be the same as I found:
Other people who have Thomas on their tree also have only what I have just a birth, none of them have him as dying or any other details:
The possible burial for the mother Mary does how ever look good as she would have died before 1815:
The other finch's that you have found are correct Mary, Catherine and William were all born in Woolwich in 1802, 04 and 05 Then came Thomas and James Born in 1807 and 1810:

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2020 20:47

In that case, the Thomas Finch in the 1841, 1851 and 1961 censuses in Upper Hardres can't be the right one.

Therefore, I take it that the baptism is the only record you have of your Thomas.

Perhaps he died in childhood (or at least before 1841) and the burial record has not survived.

Mumbles

Mumbles Report 19 Aug 2020 21:06

I think that maybe you are right, it will be just another one that got away: It is such a usual name:
I want to thank you all for searching for me and for all the trouble that you took on my behalf:
I will try to follow up on the death of that Mary Finch though as that looks good to me:
Once again many thanks indeed: