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James Hunter is my Great Great Grandfather and I have been searching for his birth and death over several years with no success.
He married Marrion Stupart in Edinburgh on 24 Nov 1837. His age was given as 21 and he was a tailor.
1841 Census - Living in Edinburgh, age between 20 and 24, tailor.
1851 Census - Living in Glasgow, age 35, tailor.
1861 Census - Living in Edinburgh, age 44, tailor.
1871 Census - Living in Edinburgh in his son's household, age 54, porter.
His wife died in1868. According to his wife's death record, he was a Jobbing Bottler at that time.
According to the censuses, he was born in Eyemouth (old spelling Haymouth),
Berwickshire, Scotland.
I'd very much like to know when he was born and where and when he died.

Have you looked for his death on Scotlandspeople please?

As he was in Newington in 1871, have you eliminated this death please?

HUNTER
JAMES
56
1873
685/5 9
Newington

Assuming he died in Edinburgh, and assuming he was born 1817+/-3, and died between 1871 and 1881, this is the only death showing on SP(which is surprising, as it's such a common name):

HUNTER
JAMES
56
1873
685/5 9
Newington

In 1871 he was living in the Newington district.

Hi rootgatherer,
Yes, I have but there are so many it's difficult to make a decision which to go for and unless it said he was married to Marrion Stupart it would be difficult to know you had the right one.
Jim.

As I said - that is the only death in Edinburgh meeting all the parameters suggested by the census records.

You can easily check by looking at the image of the original death cert on SP for a cost of £1.50 (6 credits).

Assuming the informant knew, it should mention Marion. In this case, the informant is likely to be one of his sons. His address at death and the informant's address will be given.

Hi Guys,
I already had purchased that record, it says he was married to a Margaret Preston.
Jim.

Have you found the son David in 1881?
I can't see him or any member of his family.

If somehow they are missing from the census, perhaps James is still with them, in which case there's this possible death if they were still in Newington:

HUNTER
JAMES
72
1890
685/5 1079
Newington

Failing which, I'm afraid there's nothing else for it but to either accept it as a dead end, or else to spend credits to look at all the James Hunter deaths in Edinburgh where the deceased was born c1817.

As far as his birth is concerned, SP (as you've no doubt discovered) shows no births of a James Hunter in Eyemouth c1817.

So far back, there often were no records, or the records haven't survived.

Hi ArgyllGran,
I'd purchased that on some time ago too. He'd been married twice, but not to Marion.

Thank you to you all for taking the time to look into this for me.
Regards.
Jim.

James Hunter
England and Wales Census, 1871

Name:
James Hunter
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1871
Event Place:
All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Newcastle On Tyne, All Saints, Northumberland, England
Sub-District:
All Saints
Enumeration District:
32
Gender:
Male
Age:
54
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Grocer
Birth Year (Estimated):
1817
Birthplace:
Scotland
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Head
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1871/5104/0102
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
James Hunter Head Male 54 Scotland
Merrion Hunter Wife Female 42 Scotla

Hi malyon,
James was living with his son David in Edinburgh at the 1871 Census.
He was also younger than his wife.
Thanks for the effort.
Jim.

Just posting for our info.



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

109, Cowcaddens Street, Barony, Blythswood, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hunter Head Married Male 35 1816 Tailor ??? Brecknockshire, Wales
Mirren S Hunter Wife Married Female 38 1813 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
David Hunter Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Hunter Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
George Hunter Son Unmarried Male 4 1847 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
John Hunter Son Unmarried Male 2 1849 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

West Port Stevenson's Close, St Cuthbert's, St Georges, Midlothian, Scotland

James Hunter Head Married Male 44 1817 Tailor Heymouth Berwickshire, Scotland
Marion Hunter Wife Married Female 53 1808 - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
David Hunter Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Lithographic Printer St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland
George Hunter Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Coach Smith (Ap) Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Dalrymple Place, 4, St Cuthbert Edinburgh, Newington, Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David Hunter Head Married Male 32 1839 Lithographic Printer St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland
Isabella Hunter Wife Married Female 36 1835 - St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland
Agnes Hunter Daughter - Female 5 1866 - St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland
Jemima Hunter Daughter - Female 3 1868 - St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland
James Hunter Son - Male 1 1870 - St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland
James Hunter Father Widower Male 54 1817 Porter Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland
James Slatde Boarder Widower Male 60 1811 Porter England

James Hunter
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
25 May 1817
Event Place:
Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland
Gender:
Male
Birth Date:
23 May 1817
Father's Name:
William Hunter
Mother's Name:
Grizzel Horn.


?

he may have been brought up in Berwickshire but not born there,?

1841, just for our reference:

James Hunter
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: James Hunter
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland
Civil Parish: Edinburgh, Lady Glenorchy
County: Midlothian
Address: Shakespeare Square 8
Occupation: Tailor
Parish Number: 685/1
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hunter 20
Marion Hunter 25
David Hunter 1 8 Mo [ 20 months on image ]

Freecen version of the 1851 gives birthplace as Berwickshire as stated in opening post.


Census Year County Place Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name

1851 Lanarkshire (LKS) Barony Blythswood Blythswood 622 42 588 25 111 Cowcaddens Street

Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes

HUNTER James Head M M 35 Tailor BEW Haymouth
HUNTER Mirren S Wife M F 38 LKS Glasgow
HUNTER David Son U M 11 Scholar LKS Glasgow
HUNTER James Son U M 5 LKS Glasgow
HUNTER George Son U M 4 LKS Glasgow
HUNTER John Son U M 2 LKS Glasgow

Ancestry's transcription of 1851 also says Haymouth, Berwick

Name
Events
Relationships
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James Hunter
Principal
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
12 May 1817
christening:
18 May 1817
Gordon, Berwickshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
father:
William Hunter
mother:
Margaret White.



James Hunter
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
14 Dec 1817
Event Place:
Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Lauder, Berwick, Scotland
Gender:
Male
Birth Date:
12 Nov 1817
Father's Name:
John Hunter
Mother's Name:
Helen Johnston

just a couple of bapt.

Although both those places are in Berwickshire, neither of them is particularly near Eyemouth.

Lauder is about 33 miles away, and Gordon is about 25 miles away.

I think it's more likely that there's no surviving record of his birth/baptism.

It's always possible that his death has been missed from the index. I have come across this before. I have never found the death registration of my great great grandfather although I have a date for it. I found the burial place of his wife and contacted the holders of the cemetery records to find out who was buried in the same lair. Sure enough he was buried there and I got the date of burial. As the family weren't well off, I'm fairly sure he died in Glasgow but I've checked every death registered in Scotland with all variations of his name and age without success. It is disappointing as he was born in Ireland and it was my only hope of finding his mother's name.