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Just seen the above additions, thank you ErikaH and alviegal, I'll go through that lot in abit and see if I can update the hand written tree I've done for my neighbour, though I'm expecting him coming round later this evening to see if there's anything to tell him, looks like he's going to have to wait a while longer now for the tree to have extra branches added to it

Thank you everybody thats helped, I'm most grateful, especially as its not my family and I was only given minimal info to go on.
Regards
Margaret xx

May E Duckett/ Walmsley 2nd marriage.

Marriages Dec 1946 (>99%)
Duckett May E Hilliar Radnor W. 8c 1023
Hilliar George C G Duckett Radnor W. 8c 1023
Hilliar George C G Walmsley Radnor W. 8c 1023
Jones Cyril R Jones Radnor W. 8c 1023
Jones Winifred A M Jones Radnor W. 8c 1023
Walmsley May E Hilliar Radnor W. 8c 102

and her death.



England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) MAY ELIZABETH
Last name HILLIAR
Gender Female
Birth day 17
Birth month 10
Birth year 1911
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 2003
District Mid Powys
District number 8672
Register number 16C
Entry number 063
Date of registration mm/yy 0303
County Breconshire
Country Wales


and her husband's birth.



Radnorshire Baptisms

First name(s) George Cecil Gethen
Last name Hillier
Birth year 1901
Birth date ? ? 1901
Baptism year 1901
Baptism date 04 May 1901
Place Rhaeadr
County Radnorshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Ernest James Martin
Mother's first name(s) Mary Breeze
Page 60


and death.


England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) GEORGE C G
Last name HILLIAR
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1901
Age 52
Death quarter 4
Death year 1953
District Radnorshire West
County Radnorshire
Volume 8C
Page 353

Use the link below and put in surname Walmsley

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/mkindx.cgi?parish=Ellel&type=Township&community=

1871

Galgate, Ellel, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Hannah Walmsley Wife - Female 62 1809 - Lancashire, England
Joseph Walmsley Son - Male 27 1844 - Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Walmsley Daughter - Female 24 1847 - Lancashire, England
Alice Walmsley Granddaughter - Female 9 1862 - Lancashire, England
Dorothy Ann Robinson Boarder - Female 26 1845 - Lancashire, England
Thomas Woodhouse Boarder - Male 61 1810 - Cheshire, England

WALMSLEY Alice (MMN) WALMSLEY 1862 Ellel Preston ELL/7/65

Baptism: 25 May 1862 St John the Evangelist, Ellel, Lancashire, England
Alice Walmsley - [Child] of James Shaw & Elizabeth Walmsley
Abode: Galgate
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: James Lawrence
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1866, Page 178, Entry 1420
Source: Original Register



First name(s) Joseph
Last name Walmsley
Occupation Gardener
Birth year 1844
Birth date ? ? 1844
Year 1909
Date ? ? 1909
Place Lancaster
Series MEPO6
Source Habitual Criminals Register 1909
Piece number 20

1911
In the workhouse
First name(s) Joseph
Last name Walmsley
Relationship Inmate
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Age 67
Birth year 1844
Birth place Lanc Galgate
Occupation Jobbing Gardener

Marriage: 10 Sep 1826 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
John Walmsley - (X), Husbandman, Bachelor, this parish
Hannah Brining - (X), Spinster, this parish
Witness: William Brining?; Thomas Wright, Clerk
Married by Licence by: Thos. Armitstead, Vicar
Notes: with consent of those required by law
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1834, Page 117, Entry 350
Source: LDS Film 1278859

Baptism: 20 Nov 1808 St Michael, Cockerham, Lancashire, England
Hannah Bryning - Daughter of William Bryning
Born: 16 Oct 1808
Abode: Ellel
Performed at: Ellel
Register: Baptisms 1793 - 1812, Page 51, Entry 21
Source: LDS Film 1278859

1851 from FMP
Galgate, Ellel, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
John Walmsley Head Married Male 46 1805 Beer House Keeper Goosnargh, Lancashire, England
Hannah Walmsley Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Ellel, Lancashire, England
James Walmsley Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Piecer Silk Ellel, Lancashire, England
Hannah Walmsley Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Ellel, Lancashire, England
Joseph Walmsley Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Ellel, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Walmsley Daughter - Female 4 1847 Scholar Ellel, Lancashire, England
Mark Walmsley Son - Male 2 1849 At Home Ellel, Lancashire, England

On Lanopc
Baptism: 12 Nov 1843 St John the Evangelist, Ellel, Lancashire, England
Joseph Walmesley - [Child] of John Walmesley & Hannah
Abode: Galgate
Occupation: Servant
Baptised by: Robt. Thompson
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1866, Page 93, Entry 737
Source: Original Register

LancsBMD
WALMSLEY Mark (MMN) BRINING 1848 Ellel Preston ELL/4/19

LanOPC
Burial: 15 Jan 1853 St John the Evangelist, Ellel, Lancashire, England
Mark Walmsley -
Age: 5 yrs
Abode: Galgate
Buried by: Jno. Newby, Offg. Minr,
Register: Burials 1828 - 1860, Page 71, Entry 563
Source: Original Register

If you are looking for pre-1837 in Lancashire, use Lanopc site

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

LancsBMD is also invaluable

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Both are FREE

Thankyou Kathleen I'll have a look later when I get home from work, Thanks everybody for taking the time to read my posts and for the help aswell you're all stars

Findmypast have lots of parish baptisms, marriages and burials before 1837 which c an help.

Kath. x

Marriages Sep 1873
ROBINSON Dorothy Ann Lancaster 8e 881 Scan available - click to view
Walmsley Joseph Lancaster 8e 881

After a few days putting info together I have now found with the help of some kind people on here 8 generations of the above, I found he had been married once before to May E Duckett dob 27.10.1911, they were married sept qt 1936, I've trawled through 10 years of bmd and can't find any children for the couple or a death for May either, Then jumping 2 generations back to Williams Grandfather Joseph Walmsley born 1874 and married to Margaret Ann Milner 1 daughter Hannah, comes up to this couple with an adopted son to Rose bolton. I can't find anything on Rose Bolton other than a poss birth c1877 at Preston but not sure if there are any links to Preston with the Walmsley family
Joseph Walmsley married Dorothy Ann Robinson and was the son of John Walmsley whom I can't find anything because I assume rightly that he was born before 1837 which is when most records started. Can anyone tell me how to find out information before 1837 for bmd.
All this is for a family friend who knew very little about his father William Milner Walmsley and I've been doing my own family tree for a awhile and come to a dead end with it so he asked if I'd have a go at trying to find info on his dad and other family members, he's recently come across a son he's not seen for almost 45 years so it would be amazing to be able to fill him in with more info.
Thankyou for reading this regards Margaret x

Thanks Kath x

The address where his sister Margaret Ann died in 1942 was also where she and William lived in 1930 and 1931 according to electoral registers:-

First name(s) William Milner
Last name Walmsley
Year 1931
Season -
Polling district or place Lancaster
Constituency P C of Lancashire, Lancaster Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary County of Lancashire, Lancaster Division
County Lancashire
Country England
Register type Parliamentary County
Archive
The British Library
Archive reference SPR.Mic.P.403/BL.L.82
Record set England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1920-1932

There was also a Margaret Ann Jnr. living at the same address. In 1930 Charles Edward Walmsley was also with them.

Kath. x

First wife's birth:-

First name(s) MAY E
Last name DUCKETT
Birth year 1911
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Morrell
District Chorlton
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Page 1401
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Kath. x

William's death:-

First name(s) WILLIAM MILNER
Last name WALMSLEY
Gender Male
Birth day 13
Birth month 4
Birth year 1909
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1973
District Lancaster
County Lancashire
Volume 10C
Page 1350
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Kath. x

William's marriage (Eileen must have been his second wife):-

First name(s) WILLIAM M
Last name WALMSLEY
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1936
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

WILLIAM M WALMSLEY married one of these people

May E Duckett

Spouse's last name Duckett
District Settle
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9A
Volume as transcribed 9A
Page number 11
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

This looks like William in the 1939 register:-

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number

43 Cork Road, Lancaster, Lancaster M.B., Lancashire, England

May E Hilliar (Walmesley) 27 Oct 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 136 1
William M Walmesley 13 Apr 1909 Male Lorry Driver Haulage Contractor Married 136 2<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

ErikaH Thankyou so much, I've been trawling through free bmd and managed to come up with grandchildrens names (which I knew) but also years of birth but without much to go on about William its been hard to know where to look, Brian is the son of Wm but doesn't know much about his dad to thats why I was asking on his behalf.
Thankyou once again, I'll go through what you've sent and try and put it into some sort of family tree shape
Regards
Margaret

Father's death
First name(s) Charles Edward
Last name Walmsley
Death year 1932
Death date 26 Sep 1932
Probate year 1932
Probate date 18 Oct 1932
Residence town Scotforth
Registry Lancaster
County Lancashire
Linked persons Margaret Ann Walmsley

and mother's

WALMSLEY Margaret Ann 64 1941 Lancaster Preston LAN/9A/67