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Harold Jenkins 14th September 1922

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Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 10:08

I am trying to find the family/wife of Harold Jenkins on the attached 1939 register.

According to FMP the date of birth is 14 ? 1922 and on Ancestry 14th Sept.

1939 England and Wales Register

Name: Harold Jenkins
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 14 Sep 1922
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 7 Upper Taff Street
Residence Place: Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation: Railway engine fireman
Line Number: 31
Schedule Number: 142
Sub Schedule Number: 5
Enumeration District: XHAY
Borough: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration district: 590/1
Household Members:
Name
George King
Elizabeth C King
David V King
Georgina A King
Harold Jenkins

I have put a post on here before regarding the Jenkins, but haven't added it to my previous post as I am not sure it is related, just trying to rule it in or out at the moment.

He is stated as married, although from the vague date of birth he was only 17 in 1939 and married.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated as I have a missing link in my Jenkins line which could lead to solving one of my brick walls.

The reason I have picked this one out is that he was working on the railway, which rings a bell with me, although I cant remember why at the moment.

I do appreciate that the information I have provided here may be a bit vague, but sometimes another pair of eyes sees something else.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2020 10:26

On Findmypast's transcription it says he is single.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2020 10:30

This looks like his birth in the correct quarter of 1922 (if he was born in Wales):-

First name(s) HAROLD
Last name JENKINS
Birth year 1922
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Davies
District Neath
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 1880
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

The certificate would name his parents.

How have you worked back to him?

Kath. x

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 10:36

Thanks Kath, as always the one you want on the 1939 register has a huge strip of brown sticky stuff over the important bit, IE the date of birth and marital status in this case.

I am assuming he was born in Wales, and did see that birth entry, I wish he had a middle name, it would have made it a bit easier.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Aug 2020 10:42

Looking at the image on FMP, I'm not even sure 1922 is the correct year. That sticky tape sure makes it difficult to read! I'm thinking that maybe a 17 year old would be more likely to be an apprentice. Did engine firemen serve an apprenticeship?

Can you post a link to your other thread please?

Remember that some men had already enlisted and may not appear on the 1939 register.

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 10:54

There are 2, one is huge, will have to do them one at a time, cant get it to hold both of them together in the same link.

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 10:55

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1381661

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 10:56

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1371743

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 11:00

The really long thread starts off about the Potters, and then goes on to the Jenkins later on, there was a step family created between the Potters and the Jenkins when my GG Grandfather Thomas James aka James Thomas Potter disappeared.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Aug 2020 11:09

If you have Jenkins in your tree, you should be finding births based on KNOWN parents, then following through from there

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 11:16

I know, this is the one you have given me a lot of help with already, its only a gut feeling but I am now thinking he may be the son of Constance Davies after just seeing his birth entry with MMN Davies. I know its a long shot, but this one really plagues me.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2020 11:23

The only way to find out this Harold's parents is to buy the certificate.

Kath. x

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 11:31

Yes, I agree, thanks Kath.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Aug 2020 12:51

There is a death in 1978 of Harold Jenkins born 14th Sept 1907, which FMP links to the 1939 register above, in spite of their having transcribed the birth year as 1922.

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 13:03

Thanks ErikaH, I will have a look, I may be able to pick him up on the 1911. Very grateful.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2020 13:46

This could be the Harold born 1907:-

JENKINS, HAROLD, PHILLIPS
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 770

Kath. x

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 13:49

Just found that one to, also found a possible 1911 census with him with his grandparents surname of Lewis, such a pity he hasn't got a middle name.

I will do another search using Phillips as MMN

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2020 14:09

The address of the Harold Jenkins who died in 1978 was:-

71 Gurnos Road, Gurnos Estate, Merthyr Tidfil

This from his probate record.

Kath. x

Deborah

Deborah Report 6 Aug 2020 14:24

Noted Kathleen thank you, "Probate" Hannah Jenkins, 40 Gurnos Road, died 18th August 1976. Might just be a coincidence. Wouldn't let me C & P.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2020 14:31

Looks like there might be some connection there. However I can't find a marriage of a Harold Jenkins to a Hannah at a suitable time.

Kath. x