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I am helping a friend research her Great Great Grandmother Elizabeth Limer born abt 1810 at Croxall Staffordshire died 1878 Sevenoaks
I know she married William Dale 20th June 1835 at Knockbolt Kent ( I have their marriage certificate) I also have all of their 7 Childrens name & details as well as a photo of Elizabeth
What I am seeking is the parents of Elizabeth Limer born abt 1810 I have looked on FMP also Family Search but have had no success.
Any further information will be gratefully received
Thank You Ellen

Think you have looked all the places we would

You may need parish records that aren’t online

I had another look on Family Search & came up with a birth of a Elizabeth Lymer born 1805 at Croxall Derbyshire (not Staffordshire) it became staffordshire in 1895 with a father Richard born abt 1775 Kingstone & a mother Hannah Heap born abt 1774 Newhall Derbyshire, I wonder if these are her parents?

The death was in 1876 - not 1878 - when she was said to be 66.

If that is accurate, an 1805 baptism is too early, although the location obviously fits

In 1851, she says she was born in Oakley, Staffs
In 1861, her age fits with an 1805 baptism
In 1871, her birth year is calculated as 1804, and her birthplace is recorded as Derbyshire

It pays to look at all available records, to gain a consensus.

1861 census says she's born 1806 and 1871 has her born 1804.

Rose

Ancestry also shows a date of 14 June 1835, which may be when banns were called at Knockholt..

Perhaps a copy of the banns or witness names at the marriage will help with Elizabeth's origins.

Do you have witness names available?

There were no such things as marriage certs before July 1837 - however, the record you have of the marriage should include names of witnesses, who may - if you're lucky - be related, and not simply 'professional' witnesses called into service because they could write.

The witnesses were Robert Whitehead and Amy Blundell.

Neither name appears on any of the other marriages on the page so probably not church officials.

Kath. x

The copy I have is Marriages solemized in this Parish of Knockbolt Elizabeth Limer & William Dale appear to have signed their own names it is different writing than the Rev Stephen Mathew M?????? yes Witness as above message could be family but I haven't looked into them as yet

Have you looked for any other Limer family in Knockholt?
(I think that would be the correct parish name)

Generally, brides married in their home parish, so I was wondering if Elizabeth moved from Staffordshire / Derbyshire with her parents.

Robert Whitehead 1803 -1893 in Knockholt Kentmarried Edna Hunt
I can't find him in 1841

Amey Wells married 26/4/1815 in knockholt kent to George Blundell

1841 census name Blundle in knockholt
Amy 1796 and George 1791.

Maryb

This woman must first have married a Limer

Name: Martha Limer
[Martha Lovell]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1854
Marriage Place: Gillingham, Kent, England
Father: Richard Lovell
Spouse: Francis Brockelbank

This may be that man........

Name: Robert Limer
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 8 Sep 1844
Burial Place: Gillingham, Kent, England
FHL Film Number: 1469345
Reference ID: item 1 p 30

LIMER, ROBERT 41
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 05 Page 248

According to 1841 census, he was born in Kent, so probably unconnected

I think the Reverend was Stephen Matthews and the word after that is Minister.

Kath. x

Doesn't help the search for Elizabeth's parents - but -

Robert & Edna Whitehead in 1851:

Robt Whitehead
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Robt Whitehead
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Edna Whitehead
Gender: Male
Where born: Halstead, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Meopham
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Meopham Court
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 1609
Folio: 159
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Whitehead 47 - bailiff
Edna Whitehead 37
Elizth Whitehead 7
Robt Whitehead 3

[and 7 servants ]


They're still in the area in 1861, 1871, and 1891 - can't see 1881 or 1841.


George & Amy Blundell in 1841:

George Blundle
in the 1841 England Census
Name: George Blundle
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
[Shoreham, Kent, England]
Civil Parish: Cudham
Hundred: Ruxley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Bromley
Neighbors:
Piece: 481
Book: 14
Folio: 17
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Blundle 50 - brickmaker
Amy Blundle 45
William Blundle 4
Ellen Blundle 15
George Blundle 14
Fanny Blundle 9