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Wild stab in the dark - in view of Harriet Louisa and Edward Frederick's mms Curtis, and the apparent lack of a Jenner/Curtis marriage, and also the fact that we can't find the children in 1911:
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Harriett Curtis
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harriett Curtis
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 26
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 223
Same quarter as Edward's birth.
Harriet S Curtis
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harriet S Curtis
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Harriet Curtis
Birth Place: Shoreditch, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Apostle
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington, South-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Piece: 188
Folio: 74
Page Number: 34
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Curtis 46
Harriet S Curtis 21
William Jas Curtis 19
Walter Fred Curtis 11
Florence Curtis 8
Arthur Percy Curtis 5
Address: 52 Cornwall Cottages.
Just along the road, at 91 Cornwall Cottages, there's a family of Jenners:
Edwin Jenner
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Edwin Jenner
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Louisa Jenner
Birth Place: Islington, London, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Apostle
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 91 Cornwall Cottages
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington, South-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Piece: 188
Folio: 78
Page Number: 42
Household schedule number: 189
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Jenner 48
Louisa Jenner 47
Edward Jenner 21 ????????
Walter Jenner 19
Harry Jenner 14
Ada Jenner 11
Joseph Jenner 9
Arthur Jenner 7
Ethel Jenner 5
Edward Robert Jenner
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Edward Robert Jenner
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1879
Baptism Place: Islington St Mary, Islington, England
Father: Edwin Jenner
Mother: Louise Jenner
Register Type: Parish Registers
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Edward R Jenner
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Edward R Jenner
Death Age: 45
Birth Date: abt 1880
Registration Date: Oct 1925
[Nov 1925]
[Dec 1925]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 50
I don't see him in 1911.
Unfortunately, young Harriet Louisa and Edward Frederick are not with either family in 1911, which would have been a good result!
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Johns death,?
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Name:
John Alfred Wildash
Death Age:
66
Birth Date:
abt 1900
Registration Date:
Oct 1966
[Nov 1966]
[Dec 1966]
Registration Quarter:
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:
Gainsborough
Inferred County:
Lincolnshire
Volume:
3b
Page:
200.
baptism.
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Name:
John Alfred Wildash
Gender:
Male
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
21 Jul 1900
Baptism Place:
Limehouse St Luke, Tower Hamlets, England
Father:
Henry Wildash
Mother:
Alice Wildash
Register Type:
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Name:
John Alfred Wildash
Registration Year:
1900
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:
Mile End Old Town
Parishes for this Registration District:
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Inferred County:
London
Volume:
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Page:
493.
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Name:
John Alfred Wildash
Electoral Date:
1935
Street address:
199 Holloway Road-
Ward or Division/Constituency:
Islington South and West
County or Borough:
Islington, England,
also with him is Margaret Ann Wildash..
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And then, as already posted, in 1936-37 John's with Harriet/Henrietta in Islington, and 1938-39 in Tottenham.
John and Margaret are at other Islington addresses before 1935.
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Harriet is not the normal diminutive for Henrietta
Henrietta is Hetty/Hettie
Harriet is Hattie
BUT, that doesn't always apply, of course.
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Thankyou everyone who’s replied I’ve just seen them,
The first child of Henrietta was Edna - she was the eldest and married either an American/Canadian and moved to either America or Canada,
Doreen we’ve placed as being born in 1925, Terry is somewhere in the middle of 1925 and that of Maureen being born is 1936,
We think she’s from Ireland as she always said she was but my other half said that she never had an Irish accent and it was very much a London one,
There was always a rumour that the first 3 (Edna, Doreen and Terry) has a different father that wasn’t John a Wildash, as they had completely different build to him and didn’t resemble him at all, possibly proven by doreens birth certificate having Jenner on, and maureens having Wildash on ,
I’ve contacted that many people and looked at so many leads I’m starting to lose my mind :-S
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Also somewhere after 1939, Henrietta and John along with (possibly Terry) Maureen, joy/Joyce and Brian moved to Lincolnshire, Henrietta died in 1982
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If you wish to progress this, buy a copy of her marriage cert. IF she told the truth, you will find out her father’s name -IF she knew it
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-ErikaH
i was wandering about getting the marriage certificate but wasnt sure whether or not the same applied back then with having the parents on there, as the results on here never do
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Ever since 1837, the father's names - if known - have been recorded on England/Wales marriage certs.
One has always to consider that people weren't necessarily truthful, especially if they were illegitimate
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Nina,
If you read back, Terry was born a Jones. Edna was from John's first marriage and is not Henrietta's daughter.
Rose
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