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Trying to find relative in census.

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Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 16:49

I am trying to find the wife of Charles king born in 1850 In Bury St Edmund Suffolk.
He married in 1875 and on the record there is a Eliza Marshall and Jane Kent with Harry Skinner. I looked up in the 1881 census and found a Harry Skinner with a Jane, so it looks like Charles married Eliza. I don't know anything about Eliza, where born etc, but Charles is married on 1881 and is a boarder in Bury St Edmund. Can anyone help at all please?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 16:56

Have you looked for children of the marriage?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 16:57

KING, ABIGAIL (MMN) MARSHALL
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 570
KING, ELIZABETH MAY MARSHALL
GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 557

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 16:58

Name: Abigail King
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Grandchild
Gender: Female
Where born: Bury St Eds, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St Mary
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: 21 Church Walks
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1843
Folio: 16
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Abigail Marshall 66 Widow
Abigail King 5
May King 3

Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 16:59

Oh I will have a look at those ErikaH thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 17:00

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bridwell Lane, St Mary, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

James Marshall Head - Male 64 1807 - Norfolk, England
Abigail Marshall Wife - Female 54 1817 - Suffolk, England
Charles Marshall Son - Male 18 1853 - Suffolk, England
Eliza Marshall Daughter - Female 16 1855 - Suffolk, England
David Wright Cousin - Male 52 1819 - Suffolk, England

Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 17:02

Wonder where their mother is, maybe she had died?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 17:02

Name: Eliza King
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Thorpe Morieux
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: Rectory
Marital status: Married****************************************
Occupation: Cook (Domestic Serv)
Registration district: Cosford
ED, institution, or vessel: 19

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 17:05

MARSHALL, ELIZA ANN STEED
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 04A Page 420


Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%)
MARSHELL James Bury St Eds 13 1047
Steed Abigail Bury St Edmunds 13 1047

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 17:07

Name: Eliza Marshall
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Marshall
Mother's name: Abigail Marshall
Gender: Female
Where born: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St James
Ecclesiastical parish: Ely
Town: Bury St Edmunds
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Sub-registration district: Bury St Edmunds
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 219
Piece: 1141
Folio: 86
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
James Marshall 44
Abigail Marshall 41
Elizabeth Marshall 15
James Marshall 11
Charles Marshall 9
Eliza Marshall 8
William Leach 25
Henry Thomas 27

Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 17:07

Who is the person above please? Sorry am a bit dim.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 May 2020 17:10

1901

Name: Eliza King
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bury St Edmunds
Civil Parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: Carisbrooke
Town: Newport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Sub-registration district: Newport

Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 17:11

Oh the marriage of Elizas parents?

Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 17:13

Wonder why she isn't living with family?

Jackie

Jackie Report 22 May 2020 17:16

Thank you so much Erika, I have been trying to find all this, this afternoon and you have found it just like that! You are a treasure.xx

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 May 2020 17:29

I assume your question (at 17:13) relates to the 1881 census?

The children are with their grandmother, Charles is a boarder in Bury St Edmunds, Eliza is a cook with the Temple family.

Remember that the census only shows the situation on one particular night.
It doesn't necessarily mean that they were living apart long-term.

However, perhaps the marriage had broken up, so that Charles had moved out, and Eliza had a live-in job.. But who knows?!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 May 2020 15:54

In 1901 (married) and 1911 (widower), Charles was in the Workhouse


Name: Charles King
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1850
Birth Place: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
First Service Date: 13 Sep 1874
First Ship Served On: D of Wellington
Last Service Date: 9 Apr 1875
Last Ship Served On: D of Wellington
Service Number: 90438

Name: Charles King
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Charles King
Mother's name: Maria King
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St James
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Sub-registration district: Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Piece: 1792
Folio: 269
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles King 28
Maria King 28
Maria King 7
George King 3
Charles King 6 Mo

KING, CHARLES (MMN) FROST
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in BURY SAINT EDMUNDS Volume 13 Page 416