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Sylann
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17 May 2020 14:43 |
finding her parents She was married 1927 Chorlton Manchester aged 20 father George Deceased can't read what he did looked on GRO for birth their is one but mothers name missing but on ancestry found a baptism born Dec 2 1907 Baptised April 15 1908 Alice Hunter 15 Crosley St but their is nothing for the parents Has any one come across this and what does it mean??
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 14:54 |
ALICE Last name HUNTER Birth year 1908 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Hunter District Chorlton County Lancashire Country England Volume 8C Page 898
Baptism: 15 Apr 1908 St Matthias, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England Alice Hunter - [Child] of [unnamed] Hunter & [unnamed] Born: 2 Dec 1907 Abode: 15 Crosley Street Baptised by: A. Dewhurst Register: Baptisms 1900 - 1913, Page 38, Entry 297 Source: LDS Film 2112983
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Garside household (8 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Walter Garside 10 Aug 1908 Male General Labourer Married 115 1 Alice Garside 02 Dec 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 115 2 The record for this person is officially closed.
Evelyn Garside 20 Apr 1931 Female At School Single 115 4
First name(s) Alice Last name Hunter Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1908 Baptism date 15 Apr 1908 Residence Chorlton-upon-Medlock, Lancashire, England Place Chorlton-Upon-Medlock County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name Hunter Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 15:08 |
georges occupation on marriage was shoemaker but not seeing him in1911 census if he exhisted
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 15:15 |
i wonder if connected
Baptism: 7 Oct 1903 All Saints, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Hunter - [Child] of George Henry Hunter & Mary Ellen Born: 11 Sep 1903 Occupation: Boot & Shoe Maker Baptised by: A. Dewhurst Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1904, Page 293, Entry 3282 Source: LDS Film 2112983
GEORGE HARRY Last name HUNTER Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1897 Registration month
Mary Ellen Fox, District Chorlton
GEORGE HARRY Last name HUNTER Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1869 Age 35 Death quarter 3 Death year 1904
so could alice be the illegitmate daughter of mary ellen
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Sylann
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17 May 2020 15:48 |
Thank you for that I'll look into that Fox is in my tree but not sure about Mary Ellen
I have a Maty A born 1880 Chorlton think she is illegitimate a lodger with Bridget Fox and Catherine Fox, but their is no sign of Bridget or Mary A after that anf I've looked on GRO for Mary A Chorlton Catherine was my grandmother
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17 May 2020 15:59 |
Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
5, Buxton Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Kenney Head Married Male 34 1867 Labourer Manchester, Lancashire, England Catherine Kenney Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Manchester, Lancashire, England James Kenney Son Single Male 7 1894 - United States John Kenney Son Single Male 5 1896 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Catherine Kenney Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Manchester, Lancashire, England George Hunter Boarder Married Male 32 1869 Shoe Maker Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary E Hunter Boarder Married Female 26 1875
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Sylann
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17 May 2020 16:24 |
That looks promising
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 16:45 |
As Mary Ellen Fox and George Henry Hunter married in 1897, the iIlegitimate Alice in 1908 can't be Mary's daughter, unless Mary had had a dalliance with another man, hadn't named the father, and had let the registrar assume that Hunter was her maiden name.
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 16:56 |
?????? MARY ELLEN Last name FOX Birth year 1876 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Matthews District Chorlton
Name: Edwin Fox Birth Year: abt 1855 Marriage Date: 8 Jan 1876 Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George Father's name: Daniel Fox Spouse's name: Sarah An Matthews Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Matthews Archive Roll: 743
1881 Name: Mary E. Fox Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Edwin Fox Mother: Sarah Ann Fox Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 86 Churnett St Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: Piece: 4001 Folio: 109 Page Number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Fox 26 Sarah Ann Fox 22 Mary E. Fox 4 Florence Fox 1
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Sylann
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17 May 2020 17:41 |
I think Alice was possibly illegitimate born after George had died also Mary Ellen was still young enough to marry again but I think it's mostly guess work so I've made a note of everything that's been mentioned just in case some thing else comes up
Thank you for your help Stay safe
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 17:45 |
don't know if this is your bridget
workhouse records on fmp from 1875 to 1880 and then 1884,1890 and 1891 a maybe BRIDGET Last name FOX Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1860 Age 54 Death quarter 4 Death year 1914 District Manchester
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Sylann
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17 May 2020 19:11 |
Thank you it could be If it is her looks as though she didn't marry?
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ErikaH
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17 May 2020 19:23 |
If you’d looked on the GRO index, which you’ve been told about a number of times, you’d see a blank for MMN. Therefore the child was illegitimate, and you will never be able to identify her father
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17 May 2020 19:42 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HUNTER, ALICE - GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 898
? - born Dec. 1907 but registered 1908
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk - no mmn here either (useful for Lancashire)
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference HUNTER Alice 1908 Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/211/81
also for Lancashire try http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
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Sylann
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17 May 2020 22:10 |
Erikah
IF you look at what I've put I said I'd looked on GRO and I had said about no mothers name I'm not a little girl who needs putting in her place I I think the people that help on this site do a very good" job" but it's people like you who spoil it no matter how long you've been doing your tree you can always do will a little help without being make to feel stupid I've used this site for years and it's been really good but not any more
Thank you every one else for your help over the years
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ErikaH
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18 May 2020 10:23 |
My sincere apologies, Sylann. I didn't read your post as carefully as I should have, and didn't realise you'd looked at the GRO.
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Sylann
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18 May 2020 10:37 |
Apology accepted
I know we all get carried away and confused trying to sort things out I'm no different than anyone else but I do try and learn I've been doing my tree for years but it's only this last couple of years I've found out what you can do with GRO so that is my first call
All forgotten now carry on I'd hate to not use Genes as I've said the people on here do a fantastic "job" and help so many people
Thank you Sylvia
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