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I know we all get carried away and confused trying to sort things out I'm no different than anyone else but I do try and learn I've been doing my tree for years but it's only this last couple of years I've found out what you can do with GRO so that is my first call

All forgotten now carry on I'd hate to not use Genes as I've said the people on here do a fantastic "job" and help so many people

Thank you Sylvia

My sincere apologies, Sylann. I didn't read your post as carefully as I should have, and didn't realise you'd looked at the GRO.

Erikah

IF you look at what I've put I said I'd looked on GRO and I had said about no mothers name
I'm not a little girl who needs putting in her place I
I think the people that help on this site do a very good" job" but it's people like you who spoil it no matter how long you've been doing your tree you can always do will a little help without being make to feel stupid
I've used this site for years and it's been really good but not any more

Thank you every one else for your help over the years

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HUNTER, ALICE -
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 898

? - born Dec. 1907 but registered 1908

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk - no mmn here either (useful for Lancashire)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
HUNTER Alice 1908 Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library CHO/211/81

also for Lancashire try
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

If you’d looked on the GRO index, which you’ve been told about a number of times, you’d see a blank for MMN. Therefore the child was illegitimate, and you will never be able to identify her father

Thank you it could be If it is her looks as though she didn't marry?

don't know if this is your bridget

workhouse records on fmp from 1875 to 1880 and then 1884,1890 and 1891
a maybe
BRIDGET
Last name FOX
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1860
Age 54
Death quarter 4
Death year 1914
District Manchester

I think Alice was possibly illegitimate born after George had died also Mary Ellen was still young enough to marry again but I think it's mostly guess work so I've made a note of everything that's been mentioned just in case some thing else comes up

Thank you for your help
Stay safe

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MARY ELLEN
Last name FOX
Birth year 1876
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Matthews
District Chorlton

Name: Edwin Fox
Birth Year: abt 1855
Marriage Date: 8 Jan 1876
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Daniel Fox
Spouse's name: Sarah An Matthews
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Matthews
Archive Roll: 743

1881
Name: Mary E. Fox
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Edwin Fox
Mother: Sarah Ann Fox
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 86 Churnett St
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Piece: 4001
Folio: 109
Page Number: 105
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Fox 26
Sarah Ann Fox 22
Mary E. Fox 4
Florence Fox 1

As Mary Ellen Fox and George Henry Hunter married in 1897, the iIlegitimate Alice in 1908 can't be Mary's daughter, unless Mary had had a dalliance with another man, hadn't named the father, and had let the registrar assume that Hunter was her maiden name.

That looks promising

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

5, Buxton Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Kenney Head Married Male 34 1867 Labourer Manchester, Lancashire, England
Catherine Kenney Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
James Kenney Son Single Male 7 1894 - United States
John Kenney Son Single Male 5 1896 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Catherine Kenney Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
George Hunter Boarder Married Male 32 1869 Shoe Maker Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary E Hunter Boarder Married Female 26 1875

Thank you for that I'll look into that Fox is in my tree but not sure about Mary Ellen

I have a Maty A born 1880 Chorlton think she is illegitimate a lodger with Bridget Fox and Catherine Fox, but their is no sign of Bridget or Mary A after that anf I've looked on GRO for Mary A Chorlton Catherine was my grandmother

i wonder if connected

Baptism: 7 Oct 1903 All Saints, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Hunter - [Child] of George Henry Hunter & Mary Ellen
Born: 11 Sep 1903
Occupation: Boot & Shoe Maker
Baptised by: A. Dewhurst
Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1904, Page 293, Entry 3282
Source: LDS Film 2112983

GEORGE HARRY
Last name HUNTER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1897
Registration month

Mary Ellen Fox,
District Chorlton

GEORGE HARRY
Last name HUNTER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1869
Age 35
Death quarter 3
Death year 1904

so could alice be the illegitmate daughter of mary ellen

georges occupation on marriage was shoemaker but not seeing him in1911 census if he exhisted

ALICE
Last name HUNTER
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Hunter
District Chorlton
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Page 898

Baptism: 15 Apr 1908 St Matthias, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England
Alice Hunter - [Child] of [unnamed] Hunter & [unnamed]
Born: 2 Dec 1907
Abode: 15 Crosley Street
Baptised by: A. Dewhurst
Register: Baptisms 1900 - 1913, Page 38, Entry 297
Source: LDS Film 2112983

1939What can I do with this record?
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Garside household
(8 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Walter Garside 10 Aug 1908 Male General Labourer Married 115 1
Alice Garside 02 Dec 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 115 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Evelyn Garside 20 Apr 1931 Female At School Single 115 4


First name(s) Alice
Last name Hunter
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1908
Baptism date 15 Apr 1908
Residence Chorlton-upon-Medlock, Lancashire, England
Place Chorlton-Upon-Medlock
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name Hunter
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

finding her parents She was married 1927 Chorlton Manchester aged 20 father George Deceased can't read what he did looked on GRO for birth their is one but mothers name missing but on ancestry found a baptism born Dec 2 1907 Baptised April 15 1908 Alice Hunter 15 Crosley St but their is nothing for the parents Has any one come across this and what does it mean??