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TonyLeach
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16 May 2020 19:05 |
I am after some help please.
Annie Carter/Burfoot 1898 was married to a Reginald R Moon 1891 and had 5 children who one of them was my mother. I can trace back on her fathers side, but apparently her mother Annie was adopted so I understand. I can trace back the Burfoot side, but would like help on the Carter side which I believe was her name before taking the Burfoot surname.
I hope this make sense, any help would be greatly appreciated!
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alviegal
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16 May 2020 19:16 |
For info.
Essex Marriages And Banns 1537-1935
Year of birth: 1903 First name(s) Reginald Ralph Last name Moon Residence 34 Wouldham St Marriage year 1920 Marriage date 08 Feb 1920 Place Victoria Docks, St Luke County Essex Spouse's first name(s) Annie Tilly Spouse's last name Burfoot Spouse's marital status S Spouse's residence 32 Wouldham St Father's first name(s) Henry Charles Father's last name Moon Father's occupation Stone Mason Spouse's father's first name(s) Alfred George Spouse's father's last name Burfoot Father's occupation Buters Country England
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ErikaH
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16 May 2020 19:17 |
If you’re 100% certain that her birth name was Carter, look for her birth and get a copy of the cert for her mother’s name. Odds are you won’t get any paternal info for her
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ErikaH
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16 May 2020 19:22 |
Her birth is on freebmd - so order a copy cert. it will probably take a while to arrive, due to the current situation
Or - check if there is a baptism record on Ancestry
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Maddie
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16 May 2020 19:28 |
ANNIE TILLEY Last name CARTER Birth year 1898 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Carter District Wandsworth County London Country England Volume 1D Page 788
Name: Annie Tilly Burfoot Age in 1911: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1898 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Putney, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Wandsworth Search Photos: Search for 'Wandsworth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 75 High St, Putney Surrey S W Occupation: School Registration district: Wandsworth Registration District Number: 26 Sub-registration district: Putney ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Piece: 2440 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Copsey 47 Florence Copsey 47 Ernest Copsey 19 Florence Copsey 18 Winnie Copsey 13 Charles Copsey 6 Laurie Smith 19 Frances Lucy Burfoot 22 ---- copsey Annie Tilly Burfoot 13 Thomas Henry Bowling 25 Alfred Carpenter 25 Amy Matilda Carpenter 27 Sarah White 59
Name: Annie Burfoot Gender: Female Age: 4 Birth Date: 17 Nov 1898 Admission Date: 24 Aug 1903 School: Fulham Palace Road School Guardian: Geo Lambert Notes: Fulham Palace Road School (0957) opened 1896, Melcombe Primary School from 1951
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alviegal
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16 May 2020 19:35 |
1911 Census For England & Wales
75 High St Putney S W, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England
Frances Lucy Burfoot Daughter Single Female 22 1889 - Putney Surrey Annie Lilly Burfoot Daughter - Female 13 1898 School Putney Surrey Thomas Henry Bowling Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Drapers Porter Blackfrairs London Alfred Carpenter Boarder Married Male 25 1886 Cricket Bat Maker Sparkbrook Bham Amy Matilda Carpenter Boarder Married Female 27 1884 - Aston Bham Sarah White Boarder Single Female 59 1852 Dressmaker Brixton Surrey
1939 Register
Reginald R Moun's life in 1939 Clare Cottage, Dartford R.D., Kent, England
Moun household (8 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Reginald R Moun 09 Nov 1892 Male Millwright Married 322 1 Annie T Moun 11 Jan 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 322 2 Joan F Wells (Moun) 24 Mar 1920 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 322 3 Ruth A Lamb (Moun) 23 Feb 1922 Female Insole Packer (Lace Mills) Single 322 4 The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
Matilda Fanny (Fanny M) Bearfoot 08 Nov 1859 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 322 8
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Maddie
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16 May 2020 19:37 |
???? FRANCES LUCY Last name BURFOOT Birth year 1888 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Leathem District Wandsworth
FRANCES L Last name BURFOOT Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1934 Registration month -
FRANCES L BURFOOT married one of these people
Lawrence G Dixon
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TonyLeach
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16 May 2020 20:38 |
Thank you all so much some great help, really much appreciated.
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rootgatherer
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16 May 2020 20:41 |
Record Transcription: 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Gothic House, Brewhouse Lane, Putney, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eliza Letham Head Widow Female 64 1827 Caretaker Ham Common Fanny Burfoot Daughter Married Female 31 1860 - Ham Common Lizzie Burfoot Granddaughter Single Female 8 1883 - Putney, Surrey, England Frances Burfoot Granddaughter Single Female 3 1888 - Putney, Surrey, England Jennie Burfoot Granddaughter Single Female 0 1891 - -
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ArgyllGran
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16 May 2020 20:45 |
Annie Lilly Carterv in the 1901 England Census Name: Annie Lilly Carterv Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1898 Relation to Head: Cousin [ "Visitor" in image - not cousin] Gender: Female Birth Place: Ham, London, England Civil Parish: Putney Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Putney ED, institution, or vessel: 01 Neighbors: Piece: 489 Folio: 25 Page Number: 42 Household schedule number: 274 Household Members: Name Age Matilda F Burfoot 40 - head Lizzie M Burfoot 18 - daughter Francis L Burfoot 12 - daughter Jeannie E Burfoot 10 - daughter Matilda E West 34 - cousin Annie Lilly Carterv 3 - visitor Lucy Ann Leathem 41 - sister
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 12:02 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cedar Lodge, Wandsworth Lane, Putney, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England . First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Aviss Head Married Male 50 1831 Timber Merchant And Manufacturer Employing About 160 Men Putney, Surrey, England Elizabeth Davison Aviss Wife Married Female 42 1839 - Brixton, Surrey, England Frank Aviss Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Putney, Surrey, England Minnie Elizabeth Aviss Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Putney, Surrey, England Elenor Isabella Aviss Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Putney, Surrey, England Mary Magdeline Aviss Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Putney, Surrey, England John Aviss Son Single Male 0 1881 - Putney, Surrey, England Lucy Ann Leatham Servant Single Female 22 1859 General Servant Ham, Surrey, England ----------- Matilda Fanny Leatham Servant Single Female 21 1860 General Servant City of London, Middlesex, England -------
MATILDA FANNY Last name LEATHEM Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1887 Registration month - MATILDA FANNY LEATHEM married one of these people , Alfred George Burfoot ---------------- District Kensington
Name: Alfred Georgi Burfoot Electoral Date: 1901 Street address: 35 College street, Putney Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth County or Borough: Wandsworth, England
Name: Alfred George Burfoot Electoral Date: 1899 Street address: 29 College street, Putney Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth County or Borough: Wandsworth, England
Name: Alfred George Burfoot Electoral Date: 1911 Street address: 75 High street Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth County or Borough: Wandsworth, England
living next door to arthur charles copsey who is mentioned in 1911 census
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 12:21 |
The Copseys are only next-door neighbours in 1911 too.
The Ancestry transcription wrongly lumps the two households together.
The FMP transcription, which alviegal posted, is correct.
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 12:29 |
yes thats right but i wonder why aflred was not on 1911 census unless he was elsewhere that night, clearly living at that adress in er
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 12:44 |
He wasn't with Matilda and the children in 1891 or 1901 either
He was a butler or valet. Maybe it was a live-in job, so he wasn't actually with the family on census nights, but his official address for voting purposes would still be the same as theirs.
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 12:49 |
BURFOOT, ALFRED GEORGE mms CHANDLER GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in EASTRY Volume 02A Page 649
Alfred George Burfoot in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Alfred George Burfoot Gender: Male Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1861 Baptism Place: Ash-next-Sandwich, Kent, England Father: Stephen Burfoot Mother: Ann Burfoot FHL Film Number: 1785908 Reference ID: I-1 1861
George Burfoot in the 1861 England Census Name: George Burfoot Age: 5 Estimated birth year: 1856 Relation: Son Father's name: Stephen Burfoot Mother's name: Ann Burfoot Gender: Male Where born: Ash, Kent, England Civil Parish: Ash Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury and Sandwich County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Eastry Sub-registration district: Sandwich ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: Household schedule number: 9 Piece: 539 Folio: 4 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Burfoot 42 Ann Burfoot 44 Frances M Burfoot 10 William Burfoot 8 Joseph Burfoot 7 George Burfoot 5 Samuel Burfoot 3
George Burfoot in the 1891 England Census Name: George Burfoot Gender: Male Age: 36 Relationship: Servant Birth Year: 1855 Birth Place: Kent, England Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: Knightsbridge St Pauls Residence Place: Belgrave, St George Hanover Square, London, England Registration district: St George Hanover Square Sub registration district: Belgrave ED, Institution or Vessel: 10 Neighbors: Piece: 72 Folio: 73 Household Members: Name Age Charles J Marry 34 Susan Engell 47 Sarah A Luck 48 Jessie M Morrison 22 Kath Macdonald 19 Henry Hutchins 26 Frank Tilling 32 George Burfoot 36 - butler <<<<<<<<<<<
Alfred G Burfoot in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Alfred G Burfoot Death Age: 84 Birth Date: abt 1856 Registration Date: Jan 1940 [Feb 1940] [Mar 1940] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Thanet Inferred County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 3826
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 12:51 |
George Burfoot in the 1911 England Census Name: George Burfoot Age in 1911: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Male Birth Place: Ash, Kent, England Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 67 Chester Square S W Marital status: Married Occupation: Domestic Servant Butler <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration district: St George, Hanover Square Registration District Number: 5 Sub-registration district: Belgrave ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Piece: 437 Household Members: Name Age Charles C Branch 44 Mary M B Branch 23 Peter Branch 0 Eva White 39 George Burfoot 55 Edith Markham 34 Wallace Kemsley 20 Emily White 22 Ellen Nash 23 Rose Stratton 17
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Maddie
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17 May 2020 13:12 |
1939
Ballist Cottage Beacon Road, Broadstairs and St Peter's U.D., Kent, England Speedy household (2 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Maud M Speedy 02 Oct 1889 Female Domestic Cook Single 204 1 Alfred G Burfoot 17 Dec 1855 Male Butler Retired Married 204 2
ALFRED G Last name BURFOOT Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1856 Age 84 Death quarter 1 Death year 1940 District Thanet
MATILDA F Last name BURFOOT Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1860 Age 94 Death quarter 1 Death year 1954 District Wandsworth
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 15:24 |
Ancestry's version of 1939 - no wonder I couldn't find him!
Alfred G Burgart in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Alfred G Burgart Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 17 Dec 1855 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Ballist Cottage Ballis ?? Rd. Residence Place: Broadstairs and St Peter's, Kent, England Occupation: Butler Retired Schedule Number: 204 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: DHBN Registration district: 63-3 Household Members:
The address is actually Balliol Cottage, Balliol Road.
Although the ERs don't support this theory, I winder if Alfred and Matilda may have separated soon after marriage. Frances seems to have been their only child, and Alfred's not with the family on any census nor in 1939. They're certainly living separately in 1939, when his occupation can't have been a reason.
Perhaps Alfred's name was kept on the ER for respectability?
Not that this has any bearing on Annie Tilly's origins! As already mentioned, Tony, you need Annie's birth cert to see her mother's first name, which might help us/you to track her down in censuses.
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ArgyllGran
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17 May 2020 15:45 |
Further re ERs,
Matilda and Frances are at 75 High Street, Putney at least from 1933 until 1949, per ERs. From 1935 onwards, Frances's husband Lawrence George Dixon is also there. No Alfred in any of those years.
It's interesting that Alfred is also shown at that address - but not on the same list as Matilda and Frances.
Alfred's on a list of "Parliamentary, County and Parochial Electors." Matilda, Frances and Lawrence are on a "Register of Electors"
ADDED; I think Alfred's on one list because he's the owner or tenant, while Matilda etc are on another because they are the occupiers of the property.
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TonyLeach
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17 May 2020 17:46 |
Wow! this is very interesting, I clearly will need the birth certificate which I will send off for today. So many coming and goings with this side of the family and my mother is totally confused lol
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