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10 May 2020 13:52 |
Good afternoon I am trying to find Robert Preston and his wife Jane Green on the 1901 Census
Robert was born 27th January 1877 in Pendleton Lancashire and married Jane Green 22nd May 1897
Robert Preston - 20, Soldier, Bachelor, Orford Barracks Jane Green - 19, Spinster, 25, Chorley St. Groom's Father: Joseph Preston, Blacksmith Bride's Father: Peter Green, Labourer Witness: James Tomlinson; Eliza Dunn Married by Banns
Orford Barracks are in Warrington Lancashire
They had 3 children all born in warrington Lancashire George 1902 Ellen 1904 Lilian Pearson Preston 1906
I have no death for Robert Preston but his wife remarried in 1908 to Robert Pearson and they had 5 children Jane 1909 Mona 1912 Doris 1919 Robert 1916 Edward 1918
I think its strange that the last child with the surname of Preston was Lilian Pearson Preston I was wondering if Jane was pregnant with Lilian and Robert Preston had died because there is only mention of Jane on the baptism . So perhaps Robert Pearson was the father but they weren't married
Baptism: 15 Jul 1906 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England Lilian Pearson Preston - [Child] of Janie Preston Born: 26 Jun 1906 Abode: Brick St. Baptised by: G. F. Reynolds, Offg. Minister Register: Baptisms 1900 - 1907, Page 352, Entry 2812 Source: Original Parish Register
Just would like to find Jane or Robert Preston on the 1901 Census
Any Help would be very much appreciated
Thanks Linda
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10 May 2020 14:10 |
1911 for our info - Jane's age out from marriage cert.
1911 Census For England & Wales 29 Eldon St Warrington, Warrington, Lancashire & Cheshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Pearson Head Married Male 29 1882 Tunners Labourer Liverpool Lancs Jane Pearson Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Warrington Lancs George Preston Son - Male 9 1902 - Warrington Lancs Ellen Preston Stepdaughter - Female 7 1904 - Warrington Lancs Lilian P Preston Stepdaughter - Female 5 1906 - Warrington Lancs Jane Pearson Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Warrington Lancs Lilian P Preston's Census Details
Odd that George is said to be son, but Lilian and Ellen described as Step children EDIT - LancashireAnn has pointed out step son also written by George
Initially the years married says 3 and children born says 5 with 4 living and 1 died by 1911.
This has been changed to married 3 years with 1 born and 1 living
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10 May 2020 14:17 |
Thank you greyghost. This family is giving me a headache. I think Lilian is Robert Pearsons daughter if not why would she have a middle name of Pearson
This is Lillians marriage
Marriage: 27 Sep 1924 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England John Lionel Pendlebury - 19, Tanner, Bachelor, 87 Lythgoes Lane, Warrington Lilian Pearson Preston - 19, Spinster, 96 School Brow, Warrington Groom's Father: John Thomas Pendlebury, Coal Dealer Bride's Father: Robert Charles Pearson Preston, Soap Worker Witness: George Preston; Gladys Ellison Married by Banns by: J. C. Longbottom, Assistant Curate Register: Marriages 1921 - 1924, Page 234, Entry 467 Source: Original Parish Register
How strange is that
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10 May 2020 14:32 |
If you look at the image for 1911 George is also described as step son mistranscribed. The 'step' is actual written after the name in the name column
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10 May 2020 14:35 |
In Warrington for baptism of George late 1901 but doesn't mean they were there 1901 census time.
As Dad was a soldier he/they could have been away with his Regiment (Boer War was happening)
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: PRESTON, GEORGE GREEN GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 222 Baptism: 25 Dec 1901 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England George Preston - [Child] of Robert Preston & Jane Born: 3 Dec 1901 Abode: 33 Dakins Yard Occupation: Soldier Baptised by: Frederic W. Willis Register: Baptisms 1900 - 1907, Page 96, Entry 766 Source: Original Parish Register
------------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: PRESTON, ELLEN GREEN GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 243 Baptism: 28 Apr 1904 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England Ellen Preston - [Child] of Robert Preston & Jane Born: 8 Apr 1904 Abode: 17 Brook Street Occupation: Soldier Baptised by: Frederic W. Willis Register: Baptisms 1900 - 1907, Page 240, Entry 1913 Source: Original Parish Register
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10 May 2020 14:48 |
Thank you greyghost your findings are really appreciated .
Linda
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10 May 2020 14:50 |
So I think Robert Preston died before 1906 when Lillian Pearson Preston was born
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10 May 2020 16:05 |
British Army Service Records
First name(s) Robert Last name Preston Birth year 1876 Birth parish Pendleton Birth town Manchester Birth county Lancashire Birth country England Service number 2949 Regiment Loyal North Lancashire Regiment Year 1893 Attestation date 02 Sep 1893 Attestation age years 17 Attestation age months 9 Attestation service number 2949 Attestation corps 4th Battalion N Lanc Regiment Document type Attestation Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 96 Box 839 Box record number 368 Record set British Army Service Records
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10 May 2020 16:06 |
could this be Jane in 1901 - living with her parents . Robert possibly away in the Boer War and possibly killed in action out there
Name Age Peter Green 47 Sarah Ellen Green 47 Jane Green 21 Ellen Green 19 John Green 17 Joshua Green 11 John Heartt 20
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10 May 2020 16:16 |
Maddie thank you so much. gosh he was so young.
lancashireAnn thats a really good idea. . using her maiden name .
Anyone know where i can find casualties in Boer War
Thank you everyone
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10 May 2020 16:23 |
there in nothing on fmp
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10 May 2020 16:25 |
In 1899, the Loyal Regiment found itself assigned to South Africa. With hostilities seeming likely in the aftermath of the Jameson Raid, the De Beers company became increasingly concerned with the security of its operations in Kimberly. Although a town guard and other volunteer formations had been raised, the De Beers company and citizens of Kimberly petitioned for additional security measures. On 7 October 1899, an artillery battery and four companies of the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment were dispatched to secure the town under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel Robert Kekewich. Five days later, with the start of hostilities, Boer forces arrived and began to beisolate Kimberley. For the next 126 days, the North Lancs and the local militias would be cut off and subjected to regular shelling from the Boer artillery. The siege was finally lifted when Brigadier-General Sir John French's Cavalry Division was able to break through the Boer lines on 15 February 1900.[3]
With its commander and four of its companies under siege in Kimberly, the balance of the 1st Battalion served with Lord Methuen. Together with the 1st Northumberland Fusiliers, 2nd Northampton Regiment, and 2nd King's Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry), they formed the 9th Brigade of the 1st Division. They served with 9th Brigade at the Battles of Belmont, Modder River and Magersfotein.[4]
Following the relief of Kimberly in February 1900, the reunited battalion would remain a part of Methuen's command until July, when it was detached to guard Oliphant's Nek. However, on 8 August, they abandoned this task at the orders of Colonel Baden-Powell and left the area unguarded. This allowed Christiaan de Wet to escape the British forces attempting to catch him. Although the Boer escaped, it was ruled that orders received by the Loyals were to blame, and the regiment escaped censure.[5]
The end of 1900 found 1st Loyals back with the 9th Brigade. As part of the brigade, they took part in actions around Klerksdorp. Remaining under Lord Methuen's command for the rest of the war, the Loyals provided men to be formed into mounted infantry companies as the war shifted from large engagements into a guerrilla war. The Loyals would continue to serve throughout the guerrilla phase, engaging Boer commandos on a number of occasions until the end of the war with the signing of the Treaty of Vereeniging on 31 May 1902.[5] Following the end of hostilities, 525 officers and men of the battalion left Cape Town in the SS Carisbrook Castle in September 1902, arriving at Southampton early the following month.[6] Early 20th century
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10 May 2020 16:34 |
All Web: South Africa, Second Boer War British Service Register, 1899-1902 results for Robert Preston Results 1–13 of 13 View Record Name Military Rank Service Number Military Unit
Note: To get better results, add more information such as or Death Info—even a guess will help. Edit your search or learn more. View Record R * Preston Private 72 Railway Pioneer Regiment View Record R Preston Private 4155 Welch Regiment View Record R Preston Private 3469 Northumberland Fusiliers View Record R Preston Private 5017 King's Royal Rifle Corps View Record R Preston Private 2379 West Kent Regiment View Record R * Preston Private 1968 Scottish Rifles
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10 May 2020 16:44 |
maddie what site is this please
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10 May 2020 16:56 |
the boar war records from ancestry
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10 May 2020 17:32 |
thank you maddie
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10 May 2020 17:35 |
From forces-war-records - (repeating those posted by Maddie) - but of course I don't know if any of these could be your Robert:
Robert Preston 72 Private 1902 Pioneer Regiment R Preston 1819 Private 1905 Manchester Regiment R Preston M2/020354 Private 1908 Army Service Corps R Preston 3180134 1900 British Army R Preston 2922395 1900 British Army R Preston 1415516 1900 Royal Artillery R Preston 744233 1897 Royal Artillery R Preston Private 1906 Natal Rangers R Preston 5017 Private 1900 King's Royal Rifle Corps R Preston 5017 Rifleman 1902 King's Royal Rifle Corps R Preston 1902 Grenadier Guards R Preston 4155 Private 1900 Welsh Regiment R Preston 3469 Private 1900 Northumberland Fusiliers
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10 May 2020 17:39 |
This is the one in the Pioneer Corps listed above:
Robert Preston in the UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 Name: Robert Preston Service Date: 1899-1902 Service Place: South Africa Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War Regiment or Unit Name: 1st Railway Pioneer Regiment Regimental Number: 72
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10 May 2020 17:44 |
This is probably the one listed as 5017 above:
R Preston in the UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 Name: R Preston Service Date: 1899-1902 Service Place: South Africa Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War Regiment or Unit Name: 3rd Battalion King's Royal Rifle Regimental Number: 5617
Transferred to 1st Battalion. Document dated 31 July 1901, at Springs,Transvaal
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10 May 2020 17:50 |
R Preston in the UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 Name: R Preston Service Date: 1899-1902 Service Place: South Africa Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War Regiment or Unit Name: 3rd Battalion Scottish Rifles Regimental Number: 1968
R Preston in the UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949 Name: R Preston Service Date: 1899-1902 Service Place: South Africa Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War Regiment or Unit Name: Middlesex Regiment Regimental Number: 19170519
(But the image linked to that on Ancestry is a document dated 1948 in Palestine - wrong document.)
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