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Emily Coleman. Born May 25th 1865

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 May 2020 13:23

Just a stab in the dark as a possible later marriage for Emily:

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
Marsh Emily Nicholls Shoreditch 1c 155
Nicholls Edward R M Marsh Shoreditch 1c 155


I can't find any other record for Edward R M, though there are various Edward Nicholls with middle names beginning with R.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 May 2020 13:00

Emily and Edgar in 1911:

Emily Marsh
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Emily Marsh
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Princes Risborough, Buckingham, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 18 Tintern Street, Brixton
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: General House Work
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration District Number: 25
Sub-registration district: Stockwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Piece: 2044
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Marsh 42
Edgar Marsh 17


On the image, Emily's birthplace is "Gt Kimble, near Princes Risborough, Bucks"


Edgar's middle initial C in 1901 probably stands for Coleman.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 May 2020 12:56

Bridger Marsh
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Bridger Marsh
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 44
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 196



Sadly, Ivy died in infancy:

Ivy Dorothy Marsh
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ivy Dorothy Marsh
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Lambeth
tInferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 267

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 May 2020 12:52

Without trawling through all those threads again -

how about this?


Emily Marsh
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Emily Marsh
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Bridget Marsh
Birth Place: Great Kimble, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Piece: 427
Folio: 119
Page Number: 59
Household schedule number: 342
Household Members:
Name Age
Bridget Marsh 39 [ Bridger on image] - born Tonbridge, Kent
Emily Marsh 30
Edgar C Marsh 8
Ivy D Darsh 2 [ Marsh on image ]


Daughter's birth:

MARSH, IVY DOROTHY mms COLEMAN <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 520

Edgar born before the parents were together?

COLEMAN, EDGAR -
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 108



I don't think they married

Bridger had married in 1881 and his wife was still alive in 1911:

Bridger Marsh
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Bridger Marsh
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 983
Records on Page:
Name
Clara Leigh
Bridger Marsh


Bridger Marsh
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Bridger Marsh
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1862
Spouse: Clara Marsh
Child: Ellen Marsh
Thomas Marsh
Frederick Marsh
Philis Marsh
Birth Place: Tunbridge, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Tunbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Residence Place: Tunbridge, Tunbridge, Kent, England
Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub registration district: Tunbridge
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 681
Folio: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Bridger Marsh 29
Clara Marsh 34
Ellen Marsh 9
Thomas Marsh 8
Frederick Marsh 3
Philis Marsh 1
Harry May 30


Bridger and Clara have separated by 1901, although she's calling herself a widow for respectability:

Clara Maish
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Clara Maish
[Clara Marsh]
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tonbridge, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Tonbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Tonbridge St Peter and St Paul
Town: Tonbridge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Tonbridge
Sub-registration district: Tonbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors:
Piece: 757
Folio: 86
Page Number: 17
Household schedule number: 117
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Maish 45
Thomas Maish 19
Frederick Maish 13
Phillis Maish 11
Henry Hayward 30


Clara Marsh
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Clara Marsh
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tonbridge, Kent
Civil Parish: Tonbridge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 75 Shipbourne Rd, Tonbridge
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Charwoman
Registration district: Tonbridge
Registration District Number: 50
Sub-registration district: Tonbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Piece: 4075
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Marsh 54
Phyless Marsh 21
Percy Saxby 21

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2020 12:12

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1370223

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349518

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342115

Thelma

Thelma Report 1 May 2020 11:43

Please can anyone find my relative: Emily Coleman born in Great Kimble, Buckinghamshire on May 25th 1865 AFTER the census of 1891 when she was living in Acton?

Based on information on her parents' census for 1911 (John and Emma Coleman) she is still alive so where is she during the twenty years of 1891 and 1911 - and maybe after? I cannot find any mention of her anywhere based on deaths and marriages despite years of looking for her. She did not have a middle name and I have a lot of information of her before 1891 so I don't need that.

Many thanks in advance. Thelma