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I'm trying to find the marriage of John Craig and Elizabeth (unknown surname), and their children. John and Elizabeth are the parents of Margaret Craig married to Thomas Farrer on a separate thread, but on this thread it's the Craigs I'm trying to find.

In 1851 I found John and Elizabeth living in Kingston-Upon-Hull with daughter Frances (5). It showed John born in Glasgow and Elizabeth born in Manchester.

In 1861 they have three more children, Margaret (1852), Elizabeth (1853) and Jessie (1859), all born in Kingston-Upon-Hull.

In 1871 they're in Liverpool with two further children, Charles (1867) and William (1868), both born in Liverpool.

In 1881 Charles and William are living in the house previously occupied by their parents, but are now living with James and Elizabeth Dodson (Elizabeth is the daughter of John and Elizabeth).

I can't find a marriage for John and Elizabeth. I can't find a birth for Frances, Charles or William. There's a possible birth for Jessie but it shows her as Jessie Isabella so not sure if it's her.

I don't know what happened to John. There is a John in some kind of institution in 1881 but no idea whether it's him or not.

Record Transcription:
England & Wales Births 1837-2006

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from the UK General Register Office:
Order Certificate
First name(s) JESSIE ISABELLA
Last name CRAIG
Birth year 1858
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Guest
District Hull
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9D
Page 216
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

I wasn't sure if this was her or not because I haven't seen the Isabella part mentioned anywhere else. It would be nice if it was her because it gives the mother's maiden name which I haven't been able to find.
Thanks.

Record Transcription:
Yorkshire Marriages

First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Guest
Age 25
Birth year 1824
Occupation Servant
Marital status S
Residence Beverley
Marriage year 1849
Marriage date 25 Dec 1849
Marriage place Beverley, St John
By licence or by banns B
Spouse's first name(s) John
Spouse's last name Creig
Spouse's age 26
Spouse's birth year 1823
Spouse's residence Beverley
Spouse's occupation Brass Founder
Spouse's marital status B
Father's first name(s) John Guest
Father's occupation Farmer
Spouse's father's first name(s) John Creig
Spouse's father occupation Shoemaker
Witness 1 Robt Proctor
Witness 2 John Boyes
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Archive reference PE129/20
Page 207
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Record Transcription:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

30, Short Street, Holy Trinity, Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
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Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Craig Head Married Male 35 1826 Brass Founder Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth Craig Wife Married Female 36 1825 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Frances Craig Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 Nursemaid Manchester, Lancashire, England
Margaret Craig Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Craig Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Kingston upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
Jessy Craig Daughter - Female 2 1859 -

If you use the GRO site:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CRAIG, ELIZABETH GUEST
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 09D Page 160
CRAIG, MARGARET GUEST
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in KINGSTON UPON HULL Volume 22 Page 439

Rose

????

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
GUEST Frances Amelia GUEST 1846 Market Street Archives+, Manchester Central Library MST/16/18

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
CRAIG, CHARLES JAMES GUEST
GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 181
CRAIG, JOHN WILLIAM GUEST
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 135

Rose

Wow you guys have been busy. Thank you so much, that's great. It sure does help when you have the mother's maiden name.

you need scotlands people for john craig birth

it could be one of these

CRAIG

JOHN

JOHN CRAIG/REBECCA MCGAW FR4128 (FR4128)

M

27/11/1827

644/1

320 347

Glasgow

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CRAIG

JOHN

JOHN CRAIG/SARAH MCDONALD FR3594 (FR3594)

M

18/04/1821

644/1

300 176

Glasgow

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CRAIG

JOHN

JOHN CRAIG/ELIZABETH FORRESTER FR3862 (FR3862)

M

29/05/1824

644/1

310 397

Glasgow

Name: Jno Craig
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Hospital St
Occupation: Brass Founde Ap ----------------
Parish Number: 644/2
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno McDearmid 50
Cathrine McDearmid 32
Cathrine McDearmid 7
Hugh McDearmid 4
Jno McDearmid 2 Mo
Duncan Colguhoan 20
Jno Craig 15

Yvonne

As previously advised, use the GRO site for MMN pre-1911

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

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Possibly John in 1841: [EDIT: Snap, Maddie! ]


Jno Craig
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: Jno Craig
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Hospital St
Occupation: Brass Founde Ap[prentice] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Parish Number: 644/2
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno McDearmid 50
Cathrine McDearmid 32
Cathrine McDearmid 7
Hugh McDearmid 4
Jno McDearmid 2 Mo
Duncan Colguhoan 20
Jno Craig 15

I think the possible births posted by safc are too early (or late).

There's this one:

CRAIG
JOHN
JOHN CRAIG/CHRISTIAN WALKER FR751 (FR751)
M
24/04/1825
644/2
40 111
Gorbals

or
Name: John Craig
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1825
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1825
Baptism Place: Gorbals,Lanark,Scotland
Father: John Craig
Mother: Christian Walker
FHL Film Number: 102945

Name: John Craig
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 Sep 1826
Baptism Date: 24 Sep 1826
Baptism Place: , East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Father: John Craig
Mother: Mary Fleming
FHL Film Number: 1066591
Reference ID: 2:16KCR0N

John
Last name Craig
Marriage year 1822
Marriage date 23 Jun 1822
Marriage place Barony,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) Christian
Spouse's last name Walker
Place Barony, Glasgow
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910

Other children born in the Gorbals with parents' names John Craig and Christian/Christina Walker:

Archibald 1830
Robert 1827
Janet 1823

the wedding record says father john is a bootmaker
so a maybe

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

8, Stormont Street, St Enochs,Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Craig Head Married Male 54 1797 Master Boot & Shoemaker Empg 4 Men Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland
Alison Craig Wife Married Female 50 1801 Toy Merchant At Home Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Catherine Carrick Step Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Alison Carrick Step Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Cathedral Street, Saint David, Glasgow Central, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Craig Head Married Male 64 1797 Bootmaker Employing 1 Man Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland
Alison Craig Wife Married Female 59 1802 - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Catherine Carrick Step Daughter Unmarried Female 24 1837 Dressmaker Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Allison Carrick Step Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Woolen Draper's Saleswoman Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Margaret Craig Grand Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Calder Boarder Unmarried Male 26 1835 Assit In Cloth Warehouse Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland
John Wishart Boarder Unmarried Male 23 1838 Assistant Surgeon Dentist Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Helen Hardy Servant Unmarried Female 27 1834 Domestic Servant England

Name: Catherine Carrick
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1837
Baptism Place: , Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Father: John Carrick
Mother: Allison Paterson
FHL Film Number: 0102919, 0102920, 0994180, 0994181, 1042939, 0102918

Scotland, Glasgow & Lanarkshire Death & Burial Index
First name(s) John
Last name Carrick
Burial year 1842
Birth year 1795
Death year 1842
County Lanarkshire

Yvonne -
you mentioned a John in an institution in 1881.


Where was that, please? I can't find it.

is this wife elizabeth
Name: Elizabeth Craig
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 50
Registration district: Liverpool
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 128

rules out the son of john and christian

1841
Name: John Craig
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Old Toll Road
Occupation: Cotton Gam Winder
Parish Number: 646
Household Members:
Name Age
John Craig 45
Janet Craig 15
John Craig 13---- mary shop boy
Archibald Craig 10