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Apologies to you all if I did not originally give you the address of James Pickford from the census of 1861. Thanks for all your work. To Greyghost I was wrong in assuming that the 1841 census info was correct. Subsequent research has shown that this was not correct either.

Regards

Howard

1871

Name: James Pickford.........................................Greengrocer
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: 1820
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockport Cheshire England
Civil Parish: Stockport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Stockport
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport First
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 57
Piece: 3662
Folio: 31
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pickford 51
Mary Pickford 48
Sarah Pickford 21
James Pickford 18
Joseph Pickford 17
Mary Pickford 11
Charles Pickford 9
Edward Pickford 5
Address: 139, Higher Hillgate

If the marriage to Mary Fallows is the right man, his father's name was Charles, Umbrella Maker, as posted.

The 1851 age is clearly just a mistake.

They are at the same address in 1861

Presumably, Howard got back to this man through one of the children of the Pickford/Fallows marriage

Had to leave computer for a while, so this post now out of context as lots been posted since.

You need to read the posts

The 1861/1851 census I posted you say are wrong, but the 1841 census you're sure is right.

It can't be, as the family are at the same address 1841/1851 and then link from the 1851 to 1861.

and as you can see James Pickford (or variations) is not an uncommon name in Stockport.
FMP transcription shows Pickford 1851 and Pilchard 1861. So much easier if you can give us details to help us help you.
Note - 1851 also shows him as aged 41 - born 1810??

When you ask for help, it is only fair to tell us what you know.

People can waste a lot of time otherwise.

Name: Mary Fallows
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 28 Jul 1822
Baptism Place: Cheadle, Cheshire, England
Father: Joseph Fallows
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1655427


Name: Joseph Fallows
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 16 Oct 1821
Marriage Place: Cheadle, Cheshire, England
Spouse: Martha Barlow


Name: Jane Fallows
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 12 Oct 1823
Baptism Place: Cheadle, Cheshire, England
Father: Joseph Fallows
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1655427

Name: James Fallows
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1825
Baptism Place: Cheadle, Cheshire, England
Father: Joseph Fallows
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 1655427

1841
Birch Street, Stockport, Cheshire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Joseph Fallows Male 51 1790 Cheshire, England************Ag Lab
Martha Fallows Female 52 1789 Cheshire, England
Mary Fallows Female 18 1823 Cheshire, England
James Fallows Male 15 1826 Cheshire, England
Jane Fallows Female 14 1827 Cheshire, England
Emma Fallows Female 11 1830 Cheshire, England
Ann Fallows Female 10 1831 Cheshire, England
Joseph Fallows Male 4 1837 Cheshire, England

Sorry ErikaH and safc. I had not seen your latest posts which suggest different parents now.

Regards

Howard

Many thanks for the further info. I believed that my James married Mary Fallows and not Nancy Foster but presumably his parents could still have been William Pickford and Elizabeth Butler?

Regards

Howard

James's mother's death

PICKFORD, MARY 77
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 19 Page 198

Second marriage

Name: Charles Pickford***************Widower, Umbrella maker
Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1844
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: James Pickford
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Mather*********Widow, Umbrella Maker father George Newham
Spouse's Father's Name: Dyehe Street

1851

Name: Charles Pickford
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1780
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Betty Pickford
Gender: Male
Where born: Congleton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Stockport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Stockport
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport
ED, institution, or vessel: 3i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 2156
Folio: 385
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Pickford 71
Betty Pickford 66
Joseph Pickford 19 (Josh from 1841)

Death

PICKFORD, CHARLES 84
GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 44

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Higher Hillgate, Stockport, Cheshire, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Pickfort Head Married Male 41 1810 Beerseller Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Pickfort Wife Married Female 28 1823 Weaver Stockport, Cheshire, England
William Pickfort Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Pickfort Daughter - Female 13 1838 Weaver Stockport, Cheshire, England
Sarah Pickfort Daughter - Female 1 1850

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Name: Charles Pickford
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: Nov 1797
Marriage Place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
Spouse: Mary Bayley
FHL Film Number: 1751960


Death
PICKFORD, CHARLES 84
GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 44

1841

Name: James Pickford
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Stockport
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport First District
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 113
Book: 9
Folio: 12
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Chas Pickford 60*****************Umbrella maker
Mary Pickford 60
Chas Pickford 25
James Pickford 20
Josh Pickford 9

Record Transcription:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

98, Higher Hill Gate, Stockport, Cheshire, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Pickhard Head Married Male 41 1820 Ginger Beer Manufacturer Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Pickhard Wife Married Female 38 1823 Cotton Weaver Stockport, Cheshire, England
William Pickhard Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Cotton Weaver Heaton Mersey, Lancashire, England
Sarah Pickhard Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
James Pickhard Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
Joseph Pickhard Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Pickhard Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Stockport, Cheshire, England

Name: James Pickford
Marriage Date: 27 Mar 1842
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Charles Pickford**************************Umbrella Maker
Spouse's name: Mary Fallows
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Fallows******************Farmer
Archive Roll: 707

PICKFORD, WILLIAM FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 19 Page 260

PICKFORD, SARAH FALLOWES
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 19 Page 361

PICKFORD, MARY FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 44

PICKFORD, JAMES FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 46

PICKFORD, JOSEPH FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 64

Don't assume that because people have a name in a GR tree that they actually know anything else.

If you'd posted the 1861 info, people would have had a factual basis on which to work

Name: James Pickford
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Pickford
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Stockport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Stockport
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport First
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 2566
Folio: 35
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pickford 41
Mary Pickford 38....born Stockport
William Pickford 16
Sarah Pickford 11
James Pickford 8
Joseph Pickford 7
Mary Pickford 1

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Hi Greyghost

Re James Pickford

I am sure that your census record found from 1841 relates to the James Pickford I am interested in. However, I don't think that your 1851 and 1861 census records relate to the same person. My ancestor was living at 98 Higher Hillgate, Stockport with wife Mary and children in the 1861 census. Thanks for all your work nonetheless.

Regards

Howard

Thanks for all your amazing and fast research. In answer to greyghost's and ArgyllGran's queries re non-access to familysearch.org, I used to be able to access this website several years ago and I have a user name and password which appear to be still valid but when I try to access the website, my user name seems to be recognised but I just get a blank screen with hourglasses going around which do not stop. I have also tried to create a new account but I get the same problem, Could it be that I am on a version of windows now -ie 8.1-which is not compatible with their website?

Regards

Howard

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