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I am trying to find any info on the above. He was my wifes grandfather. He was born in Yambuck, Victoria, Australia in 1871 and this is all the info I have on him. I do know he married a Cecelia Margaret Granger Archer in Invercargill in 1900 so he must have moved over to NZ before then.
I have a second request does anyone know Heather Carlyle. I was taking to her about this subject 4 years ago but have lost touch. She lives in Christchurch, New Zaeland. Or did.

Roy Horwell

Reg Sherlock seems to know more:

https://www.geni.com/people/John-Hawkless/6000000000847935221

Rose

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Search for John Hawkless.


Rose

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Hawkless
John Henry
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1911
New Zealand Electoral Rolls
New Zealand
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Hawkless
John Henry
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1914-18
New Zealand Ww1 Soldiers
New Zealand

Hawkless
Cecilia Margaret Grainger
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1925
New Zealand Electoral Rolls
Australasia
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Hawkless
Cecilia Margaret Granger
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1911
New Zealand Electoral Rolls
New Zealand
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Hawkless
Cecilia Margaret Granger
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1963
1963
New Zealand Death Index
New Zealand
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Hawkless
Cecilia Margaret Granger
1879
1963
1963
Purewa Cemetery Cremations
New Zealand

Archer
Cecilia Margaret Granger
1879
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1879
New Zealand Birth Index
New Zealand

I expect you have this, although you don't mention his parents;

John Hawkless
in the Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: John Hawkless
Birth Date: Abt 1871
Birth Place: Yambuk, Victoria
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: John Hawkless
Mother: Sarah Dyson
Registration Number: 27500


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John Henry Hawkless
in the New Zealand, Police Gazettes, 1878-1945
Name: John Henry Hawkless
Publication Date: 1921
Publication Place: New Zealand

Offence: Failing to maintain.



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Jno Hawkless
in the New Zealand, City & Area Directories, 1866-1954
Name: Jno Hawkless (labourer)
Year: 1901
Residence: Clifton (Southland)



John Henry Hawkless
in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: John Henry Hawkless
Electoral Year: 1919
District: Waimarino
Region or Province: Bay of Plenty
Address: Taumarunui

Living with: Cecelia Margaret Grainger Hawkless;
Charles Hawkless (labourer),
William Hawkless (farmer).

Also in Waimarino in 1919 there's this woman:

Laura Hawkless, married, address Owhango

John Henry Hawkless
in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: John Henry Hawkless (settler)
Electoral Year: 1911
District: Taumarunui
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui

With: William Hawkless, settler.

Cecelia not listed with him.


Same address in 1914, listed as a labourer, no other Hawklesses with him.

Re the 1921 Police Gazette record posted above, here's another record of it:

Persons Wanted
TAUMARUNUI
30th March last, on warrant for failing to maintain his wife, Cecelia Margaret Hawkless, and children, John Henry Hawkless, age 45, height 6ft 3ins, labourer and sawmill hand, native of Australia, strong build, fresh complexion, dark hair, blue eyes, prominent nose, brown moustache; dressed in brown trousers, blue coat, and black felt hat

John Henry Hawkless
in the New Zealand, Police Gazettes, 1878-1945
Name: John Henry Hawkless
Age: 45
Birth Date: Abt 1876
Publication Date: 1921
Publication Place: New Zealand

Don't know if relevant - age slightly out:

J Mr Hawkless
in the Web: Victoria, Australia, Outward Passenger Index, 1852-1915
Name: J Mr Hawkless
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1868
Departure Date: Aug 1899
Departure Place: Victoria, Australia
Destination: BLUFF VIA HOBT
Ship: MOKOIA
Ship's Master: SINCLAIR W C
Page: 3

There's also a Mr W Hawkless, 28, travelling with him.

I know that's only going to Hobart, but that, and other later Hawkless travels to NZ via Hobert are listed here:

https://tinyurl.com/vrke5l8

Sadly, no full names given.

This person travelling from Fremantle to Melbourne:

J Hawkless
in the Western Australia, Australia, Crew and Passenger Lists, 1852-1930
Name: J Hawkless
Arrival Date: 15 Nov 1896
Arrival Port: Albany
Vessel Name: Adelaide

An Ancestry member has posted:

"I think this is James Hawkless b Yambuk 1874 but West Aus records show him as dead in 1894 ????"

(Obviously wrong, if he's in NZ later.)

[Sorry, this post rambles - I was just jotting things down as I went through the record.]

Interestingly, this army record is transcribed as Hawkless, but the image shows the family surname as Candy. And the soldier is William ALEXANDER Candy, not born in 1900 as William Hawkless was.



William Arthur Hawkless
in the New Zealand, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Arthur Hawkless [ William Alexander Candy on image ]
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1897
Birth Place: Waingal Vic
Enlistment Date: 1 Aug 1917
Father: John Henry Candy
Father Birth Place: Australia
Mother: Cecilia Margaret Candy
Mother Birth Place: New Zealand
Service Number: WWI 64012, WWII 34786

Very strange.

He and his parents had been resident in NZ for 9 years.
Father Australian, mother NZ.

One page shows his name as William Arthur Candy, bur Arthur has been scored out and Alexander inserted.


I don't see any other records of any sort for a William Alexander Candy, born 1897 in Australia - nor for his named parents John Henry and Cecelia Margaret Candy.

William Hawkless was born 1900 in NZ.

William Arthur Hawkless
in the New Zealand, Birth Index, 1840-1950
Name: William Arthur Hawkless
Birth Date: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900
Registration Place: Invercargill, Otago, New Zealand
Folio Number: 4636

Ah, but -
a later page , from WW2, has him as William Arthur Hawkless.

Another WW2 page is for William Alexander Candy, but at the top of the page someone has written Hawkless, Wm A.
William Alexander Candy's NOK is given as his aunt, Mrs J Hawkless, of Taumaranui.

An even later page has him back as William Arthur Hawkless, with wife Maud Mary, which is correct for William Arthur.

Then the image on Ancestry goes to "New File Begins", and after that there's a page for William Arthur Hawkless, born 4 Nov 1900 in NZ.

The next (and last) page is for William Alexander Candy (1897), but the name has been scored out, and William Arthur Hawkless written over it.

It looks as if the Army has confused William Arthur Hawkless's records with those of William Alexander Candy.
But very odd if the Candy parents' names are also John Henry and Cecelia Margaret.


But apparently Mrs J Hawkless of Taumaranui (who I would assume is Cecelia Margaret) was listed as William Candy's aunt and NOK, as well as Cecelia Margaret (Candy) being named as his mother.


EDIT: Later -

found another record which has a note saying:
"attested under name of Candy, Wm Alex [something] name signed 26.8.19 proved correct, Hawkless, Wm Arthur."

Hmmm - I wonder why he would give a false name , DOB and POB.

thank yo all that have answered my question. It sure is a mess. Is there anyone on here studying the Hawkless name or does anyone know how I can find someone studying the name.
Roy

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