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[Professor] James Bayley-Butler

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Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 21:56

You are right ErikaH about his death place. That was my error. Thank you.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 20:54

To GreyGhost - I never thought to click on the Katherine Butler link in the Wikipedia article! What a fascinating woman she must have been. And to think that it was only twenty years ago that she died; how I wish I'd known about her. So everything now hangs on her sister Beatrice in the hope of finding a living descendant/relative. Unless their father had a sibling who, in turn, may have had children etc.

As many of you know by now, I have so much family 'stuff' that has been handed to me. Much of it I haven't been able to even look at yet but each piece reveals a fascinating and very diverse gene pool!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Apr 2020 20:51

I was confused about your use of the word "ancestor.". The definition of the word is someone from whom you descend. So technically he was not your ancestor.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 20:46

Thank you MargaretM. JBB is an ancestor but I am not directly descended from him. He is the first cousin once removed of my maternal Great Aunt born 1894. My Great Aunt's mother was EDITH KATHLEEN BAYLEY, in turn the third daughter of HENRY ELLIOTT DASHWOOD BAYLEY. The copious family notes, diaries, photographs and letters mention that JBB had compiled an extensive BAYLEY family tree and his Wikipedia mentions that he was writing his autobiography. If we could trace his descendants, we could 'swap' these treasures!

Hope this clarifies. :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Apr 2020 20:44

When asking for help, it is sensible to give all known relevant info on the thread.

You stated that he died in the UK. There is no record of that.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Apr 2020 19:10

Nicola. you said that James Bayley-Butler was your ancestor so surely you're descended from Beatrice?

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 19:00

Erika H - I have only copied and posted from the Wikipedia article on to here. Please don't accuse me of holding back information!! I put the Wikipedia link on my opening post.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Apr 2020 18:52

Beatrice had a daughter Mary M, born in Dublin in 1951.

The record is on Ancestry.

Have PM'd to Nicola.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Apr 2020 18:48

James Bayley Butler
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: James Bayley Butler
Death Date: 21 Feb 1964
Cemetery: Saint Fintan's Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Sutton, County Dublin, Ireland
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Alice Butler

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Apr 2020 18:46

The tree on Ancestry says that Beatrice married Frederick Egbert Dixon.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Apr 2020 18:44

As a click through from the article you posted about -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Butler

Katherine it says became a Nun

Clicking through on Beatrice's name gives no info.

So how is he your ancestor?

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Apr 2020 18:40

And Beatrice

Name BEATRICE BUTLER
Date of Birth 17 August 1916
Group Registration ID 1374388
SR District/Reg Area Dublin
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname MC WEENEY

from image - Beatrice Maureen
born 17 August 1916
Born at and of 40 Fitzwilliam Street Upper

you say Beatrice Dixon - is that her married name?

EDIT - yes, someone else has answered that to make it clear, I hadn't refreshed.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Apr 2020 18:37

Birth Katherine Butler - for our info, presume you know.
James shown as a university Professor

Name KATHERINE BUTLER
Date of Birth 27 May 1914
Group Registration ID 1184576
SR District/Reg Area Dublin
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname MC WEENEY

From image - b 27 May 1914 @ 89 Lower Baggat Street. Home 64 Dartmouth Square

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Apr 2020 18:32

In Dublin 1911. Married 3 years, no children

Residents of a house 64 in Dartmouth Square (Rathmines & Rathgar East, Dublin)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Butler James Bayley 26 Male Head of Family Catholic Secundrabad, Decan India Lecturer in Botany University College Dublin. Medical Practitioner MBB.Ch.B.AO.M.A.N.U.I. Read and write English and Little Irish Married - 3 - -
Butler Katherine Mary 38 Female Wife Catholic Dublin City - Read and write - Married - 3 - -
O'Toole Mary 37 Female Servant Catholic Dublin City Servant Domestic Read and write - Widow - - - -
Report any error in transcription

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Apr 2020 18:20

According to Wikipedia he died in Dublin but I can't find a death for him.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Apr 2020 18:09

You knew a lot more than you indicated in your opening post

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 18:08

After his first wife died, Butler remarried in 1944 to Alice Dromgoole, a medical social worker. Butler died on 21 February 1964. His family retain a draft of his autobiography, which has been considered for publication in the past.[1]

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 Apr 2020 18:07

A tree on Ancestry says he married Katherine Mary McWeeney and had a daughter Beatrice Bayley-Butler who married Frederick Egbert Dixon but the tree doesn't show any children.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 18:07

Butler married Katherine McWeeney on 19 December 1906, with whom he had two daughters, Katherine Butler and Beatrice Dixon.

Nicola'S

Nicola'S Report 10 Apr 2020 18:06

Oh, perhaps you would find it interesting that my Great Aunt writes that she visited him in the house he built GLENLION! As mentioned on the Wikipedia page.