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Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 17:17

I think I'll have to get some thing positive to carry on with this

Thank you

safc

safc Report 28 Mar 2020 17:02

????

can't find henry

but there is this baptism

Baptism: 28 Sep 1828 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Crosby Crosby - [Child] of William Crosby & Ann
Abode: Peter Street
Occupation: Gardener
Baptised by: Wm. Mc Quire Offg. Minister
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1829, Page 68, Entry 544
Source: LDS Film 93877

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 17:01

Yes I think your right

Thank you for your help

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 17:01

Yes I think your right

Thank you for your help

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 16:38

Unless you can find a baptism for Henry, you may never get a definitive answer

He gives his birthplace as Manchester on every census which records the info

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 16:34

Sorry Yes your right I just had Dryer in my mind but I have put Dyer on my tree
Just looked at my other tree I did year ago and I have that William married a Ann Rushton in Toxteth 1825 ?? don't know where that came from and still doesn't match Henry's birth and their is no telling it's right

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 16:21

He is a DYER on Henry's 1845 marriage cert..........not a DRYER!!!!!!!!!!

The marriage cert is on Ancestry - look at it

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 16:09

Thank you for that It does make you wonder if it is the right family when 1835 William is a labourer 1845 is a dryer 1860 a Gardener The births do fit I've checked the GRO but their is still Henry born 1821c Their is one 1818 parents William & Mary?

I'll carry on looking

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 15:27

Can't see them in 1841, with the exception of Henry, and I can't see a death for William

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 15:22

1861 from FMP, which gives fuller info

Ann Crosby Head Widow Female 47 1814 House Keeper Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Thomas Crosby Son Unmarried Male 25 1836 Blue Dyer Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Mary Crosby Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Hacker At Dye Works Breightmet, Lancashire, England
James Crosby Son - Male 18 1843 Blue Dyer Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Catherine Crosby Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 Cotton Power Loom Weaver Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Teresa Crosby Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 School Breightmet, Lancashire, England
Sarah Crosby Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 School Breightmet, Lancashire, England

CROSBY, SARAH HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 520

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 15:02

Look again at Henry's 1845 marriage for correct occupation of his father

William was a labourer when he married in 1835.

The woman he married was Ann Hughes - I've posted births of some of their children as per 1851 census

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 13:35

Yes I was thinking that William was a dryer in 1835 when Henry married for the first time the 1851 census looks as though he was …...dryer
Just noticed the 1851 census above So William was born in Ireland that's helpful and d of B is later as they have him 36 not 56 Oh Henry was born 1821c so it must have been 56 if that is his father ??
As for the marriage it possibly isn't the right one but I have had marriages brfore when they put bachelor and they are a widower?

Thanks I'll have a good look into this

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 13:05

The IMAGE of the 1835 marriage is on Ancestry

William was a BACHELOR

So if you're connected through HENRY, you've perhaps latched on to the wrong father

Sylann

Sylann Report 28 Mar 2020 13:04

I was hoping to go back further with William ? Think I'll have to find another way of trying to do it Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 13:02

FMP version of 1851
Indigo Street, Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England

William Crosby Head Married Male 36 1815 Dyer Ireland
Anne Crosby Wife Married Female 30 1821 Illegible Manchester, Lancashire, England
Thomas Crosby Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Dyer Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary Crosby Dau - Female 10 1841 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
James Crosby Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Catherine Crosby Dau - Female 5 1846 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ann Crosby Dau - Female 3 1848 Illegible Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Theresa Crosby Dau - Female 0 1851 Illegible Ardwick, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 12:58

1861 for Ann's info


Name: Ann Crosby WIDOW
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: 1814
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Breightmet
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Bolton
Sub-registration district: Tong with Haulgh
ED, institution, or vessel: 6f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Piece: 2815
Folio: 123
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Crosby 47
Thomas Crosby 25
Mary Crosby 20
James Crosby 18
Catherine Crosby 16
Folesa Crosby 10
Sarah Crosby 6

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 12:45

CROSBY, TERESA HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 20 Page 165

CROSBY, CATHERINE HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 20 Page 222

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 12:42

When Henry Crosby married in 1860, father William was a Gardener

What are you trying to find out

In 1841 and 1851, Henry was not living in the same house as William

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 12:39

OK found it

SO - for everyone's INFO

Name: Willm Crosby
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Crosby
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Ardwick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 5k
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Piece: 2220
Folio: 291
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Crosby 56
Ann Crosby
Thos Crosby 15
Mary Crosby 10
James Crosby 7
Catherine Crosby 5
Ann Crosby 3
Theresa Crosby 2/12

What makes you think the children are not all Ann's???????

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Mar 2020 12:35

Can't imagine that the site would make any difference

The records are damaged, and that's it, I'm afraid

Suggest you C&P the info on here