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9 Sep 2020 09:31 |
Ivy's still living with her grandparents in 1911.
Ivy May Mildred Gibbs in the 1911 England Census Name: Ivy May Mildred Gibbs Age in 1911: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Grandchild Gender: Female Birth Place: Paddington Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 30 Elliott Road, North Brixton S W Registration District: Lambeth Registration District Number: 25 Sub-registration District: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Piece: 2056 Household Members: Name Age John Joseph Gibbs 76 Emily Louisa Ann Gibbs 69 Ivy May Mildred Gibbs 11
She married William H Doughty in 1932, and in 1939 is living in Harrow with her husband. Her DOB was 15 June 1899. Died in Nottingham in 1951.
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9 Sep 2020 09:20 |
A possible reason for the first proposed marriage not going ahead -
this is Nellie in 1901:
Nellie Rowland in the 1901 England Census Name: Nellie Rowland [User-submitted-comment] Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Frederick E Rowland Birth Place: St Georges, London, England Civil Parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 91 Chippenham Road Registration District: Paddington Sub-registration District: St Mary, Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: Piece: 4 Page Number: 41 Household Schedule Number: 341 Household Members: Name Age Frederick E Rowland 23 Nellie Rowland 21 Lilian L Rowland 4/12
Also at 91 Chippenham Road (but as a different household) are Nellie's parents John and Emily, with son William 24, and grand-daughter Ivy M, aged 1.
An Ancestry user has added the note, "Nellie is the mother of Ivy M Gibbs, living next door at 340 " Incidentally, the note's inaccurate, as 340 is just the household number, and not part of the address.
Ivy's birth:
GIBBS, IVY MAY MILDRED mms GIBBS GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in PADDINGTON Volume 01A Page 39
Perhaps the first marriage would have been a shotgun marriage, but then one or other of them backed out of it. Presumably Joseph William admitted he was the father, as the birth was registered in his name, and not as an illegitimate birth.
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9 Sep 2020 09:05 |
Nellie married somebody else just over a year later - at a different church:
Nellie Kate Allen Gibbs in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Nellie Kate Allen Gibbs Gender: Female Marriage Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1880 Marriage Date: 21 Jan 1900 Marriage Place: St John's Wood All Saints, Westminster, England Father: John Gibbs, cab driver Spouse: Frederick Ernest Rowland Register Type: Parish Register
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9 Sep 2020 09:01 |
For our reference - location & date:
Nillie Kate Allen Gibbs in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Nillie Kate Allen Gibbs Marriage Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1879 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1898 Marriage Place: St Augustine, Paddington, Westminster, England Father: John Gibbs, cabman Spouse: Joseph William Gibbs Register Type: Parish Register
If you look at the image, there's a note at the side which says,
"These parties did not put in any appearance." Signed by the officiating minister, Henry L Bleby.
The entry must have been written in the register before the proposed wedding, to be all ready for them to sign afterwards, but then had to be scored through when they didn't turn up.
The officiating minister sounds seriously fed up - he must have hung around waiting for them.
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9 Sep 2020 08:14 |
hi all while looking for information on a friend's relative i came across an entry of marriage. the marriage was between Joseph William Gibbs and Nellie Kate Allen Gibbs and was crossed through, I have never seen this before, has anyone seen this and if so could you please explain it for me thanks in advance
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2 Apr 2020 13:07 |
Just like to say thank you to everyone who posted info relating to Charles Goodden THANK YOU Chris
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28 Mar 2020 08:46 |
PM of thanks received today from Christopher.
You're welcome,Christopher!
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26 Mar 2020 15:35 |
Re Charles & Sophia's daughter Mary Ann (Mary in 1841 census; Marianne at baptism):
gravestone and lots of biography:
http://www.stsepulchres.org.uk/burials/haynes_edward.html
Her baptism, just for the record (not posting all the other siblings' baptisms, as I'm sure Christopher already has them):
Marianne Goodden in the Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name: Marianne Goodden Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1823 Baptism Place: Oxford, St Ebbe, Oxfordshire, England Parish as it Appears: St Ebbe Father: Charles Goodden Mother: Sophia Goodden
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26 Mar 2020 15:17 |
OXFORD UNIVERSITY HERALD: PROVINCIAL. CITY AND COUNTY LECTURERS AT CARFAX. Rot. R. C. HaleĀ», Rector, Stniday morning nnd erening. Death- Jnno 11, Sophia, wife Mr. Goodden, bookseller, of thkCity, aged 55. 1863.] 26 June 1852 - Oxford University and City Herald - Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
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26 Mar 2020 14:37 |
Sophia Goodden in the UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1912 Name: Sophia Goodden Gender: Female Admission Date: 23 Oct 1849 Institution: Warneford Intitution Place: Oxfordshire, England Death Date: 11 Jun 1852 Death Place: Oxfordshire, England
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26 Mar 2020 14:35 |
Sophia Ricketts in the Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Baptism, Marriages, and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Sophia Ricketts Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1797 Baptism Place: Oxford, St Cross (Holywell), Oxfordshire, England Father: David Ricketts Mother: Ann Ricketts
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26 Mar 2020 14:32 |
I wasn't going to post this death of a Sophia Goodden, because the age wasn't right (too old, I thought), but in view of that 1851 posted by safc, perhaps it's the right death after all:
GOODDEN, SOPHIA 55 GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in HEADINGTON UNION Volume 03A Page 319
Sophia Goodden in the Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1965 Name: Sophia Goodden Age: 55 Birth Year: abt 1797 Burial Date: 18 Jun 1852 Burial Place: Oxford, St Aldate, Oxfordshire, England Parish as it Appears: St Aldate
Abode: Warneford Asylum Buried at St Mary's Cemetery, Osney.
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26 Mar 2020 14:22 |
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Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Warneford Asylum, Headington Quarry, Headington, Oxfordshire, England Learn about this record set
First name(s) S Last name G Relationship - Marital status Married Sex Female Age 53 Birth year 1798 Occupation - Birth place Not Known Birth place as transcribed Not Known Birth town - Birth county - Birth county as transcribed Not Known House name Warneford Asylum Street Headington Quarry Town - Parish Headington City - County Oxfordshire Hamlet - Parliamentary borough - Municipal ward - Registration district Headington Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1727 Folio 202 Page 28
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26 Mar 2020 12:27 |
I think the father's name James on the alternative version of the possible baptism of Charles (posted by Maddie) is a mistranscription.
On the image it could be either James or "Saml". I think Samuel is correct.
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26 Mar 2020 11:41 |
Elizabeth Last name Gooden Birth year - Baptism year 1772 Baptism date 23 Aug 1772 Denomination Anglican Place Martock County Somerset Country England Father's first name(s) Samuel Father's last name Gooden Mother's first name(s) Jane
Charles Last name Gooden Birth year - Baptism year 1789 Baptism date 03 Jun 1789 Place South Petherton Denomination Presbyterian Father's first name(s) Saml Mother's first name(s) Jane County Somerset Country England The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/43
Nancy Last name Gooden Birth year - Baptism year 1774 Baptism date 09 Nov 1774 Denomination Anglican Place Martock County Somerset Country England Father's first name(s) Sam Father's last name Gooden Mother's first name(s) Jane Event type Baptisms, marriages & burials
Henry Last name Goodan Birth year - Baptism year 1774 Baptism date 09 Nov 1774 Denomination Anglican Place Martock County Somerset Country England Father's first name(s) Samuel Father's last name Goodan Mother's first name(s) Jane Event type Baptisms & burials
Name: Jane Mattock [Jana Mattock] Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1750 Baptism Place: Martock, Somerset, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Jeremiah Mattock Mother: Betty Mattock
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Samuel Last name Godden Birth year - Baptism year 1751 Baptism date 13 Oct 1751 Place Ilminster Denomination Presbyterian Father's first name(s) Edward Mother's first name(s) Martha County Somerset Country England The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/3265
Edward Last name Godden Sex Male Birth year - Marriage year 1744 Marriage date 04 DEC 1744 Parish Dinnington Spouse's first name(s) Martha Spouse's last name Williams Groom's parish Seavington S Michael Bride's parish Ilminster ---- County Somerset Country England
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26 Mar 2020 11:31 |
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Charles Gooden England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8) Name Charles Gooden Event Type Baptism Christening Date 03 Jun 1789 Christening Place South Petherton, Somerset Father's Name James Gooden ----- but same date as above bapt Mother's Name Jane Gooden Affiliate Publication Number RG4_0043
Citing this Record "England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-
Samuel Last name Gooden Year 1772 Event date 09 Jan 1772 Spouse's first name(s) Jane Spouse's last name Mattick Parish Martock County Somerset Country England Volume Somerset Marriage Registers, Vol 3
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26 Mar 2020 10:51 |
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Charles Goodden in the Oxfordshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name: Charles Goodden [ bachelor ] Gender: Male Marriage or Bann Date: 5 Jun 1815 Marriage Place: Oxford, St Mary Magdalen, Oxfordshire, England Parish as it Appears: St Mary Magdalen Spouse: Sophia Ricketts [ spinster, a minor ]
Witnesses were R and Ann Tredwell
If this is the right couple, Sophia would have been c14, and Charles c19 - going by ages given in 1841, which I know are unlikely to be accurate..
In 1851 Charles says he's married, and widowed in 1861 census. Can't see Sophia's death 1841-61.
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26 Mar 2020 10:46 |
Just a suggestion - South Petherton is about 3 miles from Martock:
Charles Gooden in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 Name: Charles Gooden Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Father: Saml Gooden Mother: Jane Gooden Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1789 Baptism Place: South Petherton, Somerset, England Denomination: Presbyterian Piece Title: Piece 0043: South Petherton, Old Meeting (Presbyterian), 1786-1837
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26 Mar 2020 08:37 |
1861 census has him born Martock.
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26 Mar 2020 08:25 |
Name: Charles Goodden Event Type: Census Event Date: 1851 Event Place: St Ebbe, Oxfordshire, England Registration District: Oxford Residence Note: Speedwell Street Gender: Male Age: 61 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Bookseller Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1790 Birthplace: Marlow, Somersetshire Page Number: 10 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 1728 / 226 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4279228/00457&parentid=GBC/1851/0000491677
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Charles Goodden Head M 61 Marlow, Somersetshire Letitia Goodden Daughter F 24 Oxford, Oxfordshire Charles Goodden Son M 21 Oxford, Oxfordshire Sarah Goodden Daughter F 19 Oxford, Oxfordshire Louisa Goodden Daughter F 17 Oxford, Oxfordshire
Household ID: 83013 Line Number: 16 GS Film Number: 101795715 Digital Folder Number: 101795715 Image Number: 00457
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