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John Fenton born 1891

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Mar 2020 10:19

This is all connected to another thread!!

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378379


Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 20:59

Thanks for that argyll gran. Think they were none too keen on step mum Emma so I heard. Bet their dad missed them though.
Thanks for all the great info.
Regards
Shirley :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Mar 2020 20:38

Frederick George's other daughter Mabel Gladys (sometimes Gladys Mabel) emigrated to Australia with her husband and daughters.

Register Type: Parish Registers
Mabel Gladys Adams
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Mabel Gladys Adams
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 May 1899
Baptism Place: Chelsea St Saviour, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick George Adams
Mother: Kathleen Adams



ADAMS, MABEL GLADYS mms O'BRIEN
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in CHELSEA Volume 01A Page 381


Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
ADAMS Gladys M Shewan Brentford 3a 465
Shewan Robert Y Adams Brentford 3a 465


Mrs Gladys Mabel Shewan
in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mrs Gladys Mabel Shewan
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1899
Departure Date: 28 Jul 1927
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name: Borda
Shipping Line: Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co
Official Number: 135340
Master: Captain F N Wyatt

Travelling with Robert Gordon Shewan, 29, of 60 Castlebar Road, Ealing;
Agnes Barnet Joyce Shewan, 4; and Muriel Audrey Shewan, 1.


Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Shewan Muriel A Adams Brentford 3a 236

Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Shewan Agnes B J Adams Brentford 3a 317



Gladys Mabel Shewan
in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Gladys Mabel Shewan
Birth Year: abt 1899
Age: 70
Death Place: Footscray, Victoria
Father's name: George Adams
Mother's name: Kathleen Obrien
Registration Year: 1969
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 17693


Gladys Mabel Shewan
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Gladys Mabel Shewan
Birth Date: 8 Mar 1899
Birth Place: Chelsea, Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, Greater London, England
Death Date: 26 Jul 1969
Death Place: Footscray, Maribyrnong City, Victoria, Australia
Cemetery: Altona Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Altona, Hobsons Bay City, Victoria, Australia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Mar 2020 20:14

Kathleen Elizabeth (Kitty) was in Canada by 1921, having married Lionel in 1919 in Ealing. The 1921 census says she emigrated in 1919:

Kathleen Elza Sharp
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Kathleen Elza Sharp
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Leonel Charles Sharp
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1919
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: British Columbia
District: Vancouver
District Number: 13
Sub-District: Ward 6
Sub-District Number: 9
City, Town or Village: Vancouver
Street or Township: 22 96 8th Ave W
Municipality: Ward 6
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Leonel Charles Sharp 24
Kathleen Elza Sharp 23
Phyllis Kathleen Sharp 1


Kathleen Elizabeth Sharp
in the British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872-1990
Name: Kathleen Elizabeth Sharp
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1898
Death Age: 70
Death Date: 21 Mar 1968
Death Location: North Vancouver
Registration Number: 1968-09-004654
BCA Number: B13288
GSU Number: 2033941

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 20:05

Thanks for that erika. Didn't know George's middle name was Henry either. Yes, need to get that certificate for proof it may be her death in 1937.thanks for that. Appreciate. It. Thanks also to Margaret for posting regarding Dora's sister being already there. Kitty married a Lionel sharp and must have gone ahead first. That's helpful too.
Thanks all. Thi k need a certificate next. :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:55

ADAMS, GEORGE HENRY MITCHELL
GRO Reference: 1910 S Quarter in LEWES Volume 02B Page 145

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:45

Name: Freda Agness Adams
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1901
Baptism Place: Chelsea St Saviour, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Frederick Adams
Mother: Kathleen Adams
Register Type: Parish Registers

1939

Name: Freda A Gray
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 14 Aug 1901
Residence Year: 1939
Address: High St.lane End
Residence Place: Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 88
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: DWPS
Registration district: 145/1
Inferred Spouse: William J Gray
Household Members:
Name
William J Gray
Freda A Gray
This record is officially closed.
John F Gray
Joan E Matthews

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:14

Easily found on freebmd - probable death

Deaths Sep 1937 (>99%)
Adams Katherine E 61 Uxbridge 3a 76

BUT - you need the cert for 100% proof

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 17:04

Have you done anything about looking for her?

Did she register Frederick's death?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Mar 2020 16:35

Dora Violet Fenton

in the Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
View Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924

Name: Dora Violet Fenton
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birth Place: London, England
Age: 28
Date of Arrival: 10 Mar 1924
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Ship Name: Saxonia

Destined to sister Mrs. F.C. Sharp, Vancouver British Columbia.

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 16:30

All we know is her dad was named William. That's all we know I think. And born in Worcester. In 1877. :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 16:24

Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%)
Mitchell Emma Skipton 9a 59
Wilkinson James Skipton 9a 59

For info about Catherine's birth year - vital

Name: Catherine Adams
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Worcestershire


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 16:19

Name: Frederick George Adams
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Cuckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 373
Frederick George Adams
Katherine Emma Wilkinson

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 16:06

We are also trying to find what happened to Catherine Emma adams nee Mitchell. Frederick George Adams had at least three more children with Catherine Emma known as Emma before he died in 1933. She already had Edward from her first marriage to James Wilkinson,. Edward was born in Nelson. On the 1911census he was living with Frederick George and his mum Catherine Emma and was named as Edward Adams. He was actually Edward Wilkinson.
Then they had Frances (fanny) and Phyllis and George..
After this we do not know what happened to Catherine Emma Adams.
Is there any chance of finding her out there. She seems to like to change her name to be called Emma.
Thanks :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:52

Yes you are right. Thanks for finding John Fenton for me. Appreciate it. Ah, I did wonder if he'd been a farmer.
I'm later photos in Canada he looked like he was farming.
Thanks again
Shirley

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:49

Baptism: 25 Oct 1891 All Hallows, Bispham, Lancashire, England
John Fenton - [Child] of James Fenton & Martha Ann
Abode: Bispham Court
Occupation: Farmer
Baptised by: Geo. Leighton, M. A.
Register: Baptisms 1852 - 1936, Page 78, Entry 619
Source: LDS Film 1526145

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
Fenton James Chorlton 8c 928
HARROP Martha Ann Chorlton 8c 928

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:49

Kate obrien was her mum. Catherine Emma was Frederick Adams second wife. Yes they moved to Canada as did her other sister kitty also known as Kathleen. Kathleen was born in 1897. Both Jack Fenton and Dora died in Canada.
Have you been able to find John Fenton on the 1911census. I appreciate I've not given details of parents. There are also a few options in that area of fylde for a John Fenton. Will check to make sure I have not got John Fenton father name

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:46

Some questions simply can't be answered

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Mar 2020 15:45

Name: John Fenton
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bispham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bispham with Norbreck
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: Bispham Court Farm, Little Bispham, Nr Blackpool
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Farmer's Son Working On Farm
Registration district: Fylde
Registration District Number: 477
Sub-registration district: Blackpool
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 25403
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Ann Fenton 58
Alice Fenton 32
Margaret Fenton 26
Edward Fenton 23
John Fenton 19

Shirley

Shirley Report 11 Mar 2020 15:44

Ah thanks for that erika. Wondered if she had found work.
I'm trying to discover how she came to marry John Fenton in Blackpool.