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Ronald
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28 Feb 2020 09:02 |
Would someone be kind enough to look up the above on the World Ancestry site please? I am researching the Guyatt family for a friend and found reference to Elsom on the British site. Many thanks in advance. Ron
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 09:53 |
Name: Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1908 Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Capricornia, Queensland, Australia
Name: Elson Guyatt Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1862 Place of Origin: Sussex, England Ship Name: Dacca Port of Departure: London, England Port of Arrival: Brisbane Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1886
Name: Elson Guyatt Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1862 Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1886 Arrival Place: Queensland, Australia Ship: Dacca Title: Assisted Immigration 1848 to 1912 Page Number: 109 QSA Item: 18483 Microfilm: Z1962 Microfilm 2: M1701 M1702
Name: Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1903 Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Wide Bay, Queensland, Australia
Name: Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1905 Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Wide Bay, Queensland, Australia
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28 Feb 2020 09:54 |
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Guyatt Birth Date: 9 May 1899 Birth Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1899 Registration Place: Queensland, Australia Father: William Elsom Guyatt Mother: Kate Mcdonald Page Number: 10264 Registration Number: 000739
Name: Ellen Elizabeth Guyatt Gender: Female Electoral Date: 1980 Electoral Place: Norman, Griffith, Queensland, Australia
Name: Alexander Guyatt Birth Date: 11 Mar 1903 Birth Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1903 Registration Place: Queensland, Australia Father: William Elsom Guyatt Mother: Catherine Mcdonald Page Number: 10264 Registration Number: 000502
Name: Alexander GuyattName: Alexander Guyatt Spouse Name: Dorothy Entwistle Marriage Date: 21 Jul 1934 Registration Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1934 Registration Number: 002441 Page Number: 1019
Death Date: 22 Jun 1984 Cemetery: Bundaberg Crematorium and Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Bundaberg, Bundaberg Region, Queensland, Australia Has Bio?: N
Name: Elsie Annie Guyatt Birth Date: 3 Apr 1898 Birth Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1898 Registration Place: Queensland, Australia Father: William Elsom Guyatt Mother: Kate Mcdonald Page Number: 10264 Registration Number: 000718
Name: Elsie Annie Guyatt Spouse Name: Eric Silvester Robinson Marriage Date: 15 Jun 1929 Marriage Place: Queensland Registration Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1929 Registration Number: B006220 Page Number: 1592
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 09:58 |
Name: William Elsom Guyatt Spouse Name: Kate McDonald Marriage Date: 07 Feb 1894 Marriage Place: Queensland Registration Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1894 Registration Number: 000096 Page Number: 10265
Name: William Elsom Guyatt Death Date: 12 Oct 1938 Death Place: Queensland Father's name: William Mother's name: Annie Elsom Registration Year: 1938 Registration Place: Queensland Registration Number: 004012 Page Number: 747
Name: William Elsom Guyatt Year: 1939 Place: Queensland, Australia District: Southern Will Number: 1939/378 Item ID: 744052 Prev Sys: SCT/P2236 Microfilm Number: n/a File Name: Wills1901-1940
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ArgyllGran
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28 Feb 2020 10:18 |
I'm assuming you have his pre-Australia info?
Births Mar 1861 (>99%) GUYATT Thomas Elcon Westbourne 2b 345 Guyatt William Elsom Westbourne 2b 345
The Thomas above seems to be a mistake - no such birth on the GRO Index.
William Elson Guyatt in the 1861 England Census Name: William Elson Guyatt [Willian Elson Guyatt] Age: 3/12 Estimated birth year: 1861 Relation: Son Father's name: William Guyatt Mother's name: Anne Ellen Guyatt Gender: Male Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Westbourne Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Westbourne Sub-registration district: Westbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 2 Piece: 630 Folio: 87 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age William Guyatt 28 Anne Ellen Guyatt 27 William Elson Guyatt 3/12
William Uran Guyatt in the 1871 England Census Name: William Uran Guyatt [William Elsom Guyatt] Age: 10 Estimated birth year: 1861 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Westbourne Sussex England Civil Parish: Westbourne Town: Westbourne County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Westbourne Sub-registration district: Westbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 139a Piece: 1124 Folio: 71 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age William Guyatt 38 Ann Ellen Guyatt 37 William Uran Guyatt 10 Earnest Jas Guyatt 8 Mark Fredk Guyatt 6 Frank Guyatt 4 Ellen Retckab Guyatt 2
William E. Guyatt in the 1881 England Census Name: William E. Guyatt Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relationship to Head: Son Father: William Guyatt Mother: Ann Ellen Guyatt Gender: Male Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Elsted County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: The Village Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Midhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: Piece: 1133 Folio: 33 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age William Guyatt 49 Ann Ellen Guyatt 47 William E. Guyatt 20 Ernest J. Guyatt 18 Mark F.J. Guyatt 16 Frank Guyatt 14 Ellen R. Guyatt 12 Elizabeth H. Guyatt 9 Edgar C. Guyatt 7 Stephen Guyatt
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ArgyllGran
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28 Feb 2020 10:27 |
William Elsom Guyatt in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: William Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1925 Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Capricornia, Queensland, Australia
He's a farmer at Triangle Farm, with Alexander, farmer; Catherine, home duties; Nellie Elizabeth, home duties; and Elsie Annie, home duties.
Same in 1930:
William Elsom Guyatt in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: William Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1930 Electoral Place: Gin Gin, Capricornia, Queensland, Australia
Same address in 1919, but only William and Catherine:
There's also an Albert Edgar Guyatt at Walla Road, Gin Gin in 1919 - related?
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Ronald
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28 Feb 2020 10:29 |
Wow Erika, thanks so much for all this information. The Elsom name is common as a middle name in the Guyatts I have already found. Need to check the names against my records as I hadn't had Elsom Guyatt. My friend is having a family get together tomorrow to celebrate his grandfather's 138th birthday and have a genealogy chat. Should be interesting. Many thanks again, Ron
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Ronald
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28 Feb 2020 10:32 |
And thanks ArgyllGran for your input too. Need to check your information. Looks like I'm going to be busy today. Have a good day Ron
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 10:41 |
If you need anything further, just ask..............
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ArgyllGran
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28 Feb 2020 10:41 |
Albert may have nothing to do with William Elsom, but will post this in case
[EDIT: Albert is William's nephew - see next post ]:
Birth: GUYATT, ALBERT EDGAR mms SADLER GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in GUILDFORD Volume 02A Page 57
Albert Edgar Guyatt in the Web: Queensland, Australia, Immigration Indexes, 1848-1972 Name: Albert Edgar Guyatt Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1893 Arrival Date: 1914 Arrival Place: Queensland, Australia Source Card Name: Albert Edgar Guyatt Ship: Osterley Title: Card Index to Nominated Immigrants 1908 to 1922 Item ID: 868957 Ref: IMM/330 Microfilm: Z7750
Bertie Guyatt in the 1911 England Census Name: Bertie Guyatt Age in 1911: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Pirbright, Surrey Civil Parish: Worthing County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: 27 Gloucester Place Worthing Marital status: Single Occupation: Porter Registration district: East Preston Registration District Number: 84 Sub-registration district: Worthing ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 5334 Household Members: Name Age Ernest James Guyatt 48 Eliza Guyatt 47 Bertie Guyatt 18 Edith Guyatt 16 Percy Guyatt 15 Ernest Guyatt 12 Leonard Guyatt 9 Chrissie Guyatt 8
Albert E Guyatt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Albert E Guyatt Registration Date: Oct 1917 [Nov 1917] [Dec 1917] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: East Preston Inferred County: Sussex Spouse: Eva F Pratley Volume Number: 2b Page Number: 912
Albert Edgar Guyatt in the Australia, WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: Albert Edgar Guyatt Gender: Male Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1890 Birth Place: Lesbright, England Dossier Year Range: 1914-1920 Enlistment Place: Bundaberg, Queensland Service Number: 3148 Spouse: E F Guyatt
On his Australian army record, Eva is listed as his wife and NOK (added after 1917 marriage obviously). Her address is given as 150 Tarring Road, Worthing, Sussex. Previously, his mother was listed as NOK. He was fighting in France in September 1917. Wounded in action , October 1917, and sent back to England. Back to France in April 1918. Again wounded in action in France, August 1918. Discharged in England as medically unfit in November 1918.
Three Guyatt/Pratley births in Croydon, in the early 1920s.
Eva F Guyatt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Eva F Guyatt Death Age: 69 Birth Date: abt 1892 Registration Date: Oct 1961 [Nov 1961] [Dec 1961] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Croydon Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 117
Albert E Guyatt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Albert E Guyatt Death Age: 68 Birth Date: abt 1892 Registration Date: Oct 1960 [Nov 1960] [Dec 1960] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Croydon Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 80
Eva F Guycett in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Eva F Guycett Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 24 Jan 1892 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 8 Exeter Road Residence Place: Croydon , Surrey , England Occupation: Domestic Unpaid Schedule Number: 154 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: CLJE Registration district: 39-2 Inferred Spouse: Albert E Guycett Household Members: Name Albert E Guycett - 16 June 1892 Eva F Guycett (and 2 closed records)
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ArgyllGran
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28 Feb 2020 10:50 |
Albert Edgar is William Elsom's nephew.
Albert's father Ernest James is William's younger brother - see 1871 and 1881 censuses above.
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 10:53 |
Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt Birth Date: 15 May 1904 Birth Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1904 Registration Place: Queensland, Australia Father: Mark Guyatt Mother: Mary Elias Gibson Page Number: 10265 Registration Number: 007682
Name: Mark Elson Guyatt Spouse Name: Olive Emily Hargrave Marriage Date: 03 Dec 1929 Marriage Place: Queensland Registration Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1929 Registration Number: B007425 Page Number: 1592
Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1930 Electoral Place: Roma, Maranoa, Queensland, Australia
Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1963 Electoral Place: Roma, Maranoa, Queensland, Australia
Name: Mark Elsom Guyatt..........farmer Gender: Male Electoral Date: 1980 Electoral Place: Roma, Maranoa, Queensland, Australia Also at the address - Glenolive, Gunnewin - Olive Emily Guyatt
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 10:55 |
Name: Mark Frederick Guyatt Birth Date: 1865 Death Date: 1950 Cemetery: Roma General Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Roma, Maranoa Region, Queensland, Australia
Name: Mark Guyatt Spouse Name: Macy Eliza Gibson Marriage Date: 01 Jun 1898 Marriage Place: Queensland Registration Place: Queensland Registration Year: 1898 Registration Number: 001442 Page Number: 10265
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 11:18 |
Name: Mr W E Guyatt Arrival Age: 62 Birth Date: abt 1862 Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia Arrival Date: 22 May 1924 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Port Said; Hobart; Colombo; Naples; Toulon; Gibraltar; Melbourne; Sydney; Adelaide; Fremantle; Plymouth, Devon, England Ship Name: Orsova Shipping Line: Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Travelling alone - going to West Croydon
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 11:25 |
Another brother, possibly, based on 1871 census
Name: Mr Frank Guyatt...........................................Miner Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Age: 44 Arrival Date: 27 Nov 1911 Arrival Port: Sydney, Australia Departure Port: Fremantle Ship: Mongolia Nationality: English
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Ronald
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28 Feb 2020 12:51 |
I've said this before, but it never ceases to amaze me how people on this site are willing to spend their own time helping others. Erika and ArgyllGran, thank you both very much. I had nothing on Elsom Guyatt before today, but your information has clarified how he fits in to the British Guyatts. I already had most of the census details you provided, but thank you for taking the trouble to post them. I can now add Elsom Guyatt into my existing tree. If there is anything else that you might find about the Australian Guyatts I'd be grateful to receive it. Have a good weekend both of you and take care, Ron
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ArgyllGran
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28 Feb 2020 13:07 |
Another brother?
Mark Guyatt in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Mark Guyatt Death Date: 01 Jun 1950 Death Place: Queensland Father's name: William Mother's name: Annie Elsom Registration Year: 1950 Registration Place: Queensland Registration Number: 001978 Page Number: 937
Presumably he's the Mark Frederick J Guyatt in the 1871 and 1881 censuses above, and whose burial Erika has posted.
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Maddie
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28 Feb 2020 14:16 |
this maybe frank from 1881 census
in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939 View UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
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Name: Frank Guyatt Gender: Male Birth Date: 3 Nov 1866 Birth Place: Westbourne, Sussex First Service Date: 11 Jan 1882 First Ship Served On: St Vincent Last Service Date: 3 Dec 1886 Last Ship Served On: Asia Service Number: 118731
Name: Ab Francis Guyatt Death Date: 11 Dec 1886 Cemetery: Haslar Royal Naval Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Gosport, Gosport Borough, Hampshire, England Has Bio?: N URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...
brother Edgar
Name: Edgar C Guyatt Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 8 Nov 1873 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 15 Residence Place: Croydon, Surrey, England Emily Guyatt Hilda C Strand
Name: Edgar Charles Guyatt Gender: Male Age: 30 Birth Date: 1874 Marriage Date: 2 Apr 1904 Marriage Place: Surrey, England Father: William Guyatt Spouse: Emily Aldridge FHL Film Number: 2232745 Reference ID: item 3 p 56 Occupation: Slater & ?? Schedule Number: 182 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: CLJI Registration district: 39-2 Inferred Spouse: Emily Guyatt Household Members: Name Edgar C Guyatt Emily Guyatt Hilda C Strand
Edgar Charles Guyatt Age in 1911: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Westbourne, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Croydon Search Photos: Search for 'Croydon' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 15 Milton Avenue, Croydon Marital status: Married Occupation: Tiler Registration district: Croydon Registration District Number: 39 Sub-registration district: South Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 3297 Household Members: Name Age Edgar Charles Guyatt 37 Emily Guyatt 35 Hilda Clare Guyatt 3/12
three children born and living
Name: Gladys Anne Guyatt Gender: Female Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1908 Baptism Place: Croydon, District of St James, Surrey, England Father: Edgar Charles Guyatt Mother: Emily Guyatt FHL Film Number: 1835912 Reference ID: pg 53 #422
Hilda Clare Guyatt Baptism Age: 0 Birth Date: 24 Dec 1910 Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1911 Baptism Place: Croydon Common, St James, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Croydon, St James Search Photos: Search for 'Croydon Common, St James' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Edgar Charles Guyatt Mother: Emily Guyatt
another child
OLIVE E Last name GUYATT Birth year 1912 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Aldridge District Croydon County Surrey Country England
OLIVE E Last name GUYATT Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1938 Registration month - OLIVE E GUYATT married one of these people
Roland P Blennerhassett Spouse's last name Blennerhassett District Croydon
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23 Blenheim Park Flat, Croydon C.B., Surrey, England Rowland Blennerhassett 19 May 1912 Male Shop Assistant General Dealer Married 344 1 Olive Blennerhassett 25 Mar 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 344 2
two children born 1941 and1946 croydon
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28 Feb 2020 14:49 |
Name: Elizabeth Harriett Guyatt Gender: Female Marriage Age: 31 Record Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1872 Marriage Date: 5 Sep 1903 Marriage Place: Croydon, St Michael, Surrey, England Search Photos: Search for 'Croydon, St Michael' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: William Guyatt Spouse: Arthur William Bevan
Name: Elizabeth Harriett Bevan Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Registration Year: 1906 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 34 Registration district: Croydon Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 183
daughter
Name: Audrey Seline Bevan --- image says eveline Baptism Age: 0 Birth Date: 16 Jul 1904 Baptism Date: 22 Oct 1904 Baptism Place: Croydon, St Michael, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Croydon, St Michael and All Angels Search Photos: Search for 'Croydon, St Michael' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Arthur William Bevan Mother: Elizabeth Harriett Bevan
Name: Audrey Eveline Bevan Register Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1905 Burial or Cremation Date: 25 Mar 1905 Burial or Cremation Place: Sutton, London, England
Name: Audrey Eveline Bevan Estimated birth year: abt 1905 Registration Year: 1905 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Croydon
sister
Name: Ellen R Guyatt Death Age: 92 Birth Date: abt 1869 Registration Date: Apr 1961 [May 1961] [Jun 1961] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Croydon
Name: Ellen Rebecca Guyatt Registration Year: 1869 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Westbourne Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Sussex
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ErikaH
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28 Feb 2020 16:21 |
Might be worth trying the following, Ronald
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?surname=guyatt&record_country=Australia&count=20
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