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5 Feb 2020 16:06 |
Hello, I'm struggling to work out with her being born after the 1880 census as to who were her siblings and who wasn't. The 1891 census is messed up and everything is crossed out. I'm not sure how to approach this and whether there were any births after she left home as the Mum potentially has another 15 years to have kids. I've ended up with a royal mess from Ancestry Hints (as usual).
Her Mum was Ellen Lyndon, Father Alfred Nurse. both born in 1862, all in Coventry.
Many thanks.
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ErikaH
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5 Feb 2020 16:27 |
Look here for info. A good site to get used to using.............
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
If you persist in relying on Ancestry 'hints' you could end up with a totally fictitious tree
Do your own research rather than relying on what others have found unless there is documentary proof that their research is accurate.
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ErikaH
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5 Feb 2020 16:28 |
For correct spelling of her name
Name: Eveline Eleanor Nurse Birth Date: 8 Mar 1884 Baptism Date: 4 Apr 1884 Baptism Place: Coventry, St Michael, Warwickshire, England Parish: Coventry, St Michael Father: Alfred Nurse Mother: Ellen Nurse
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5 Feb 2020 16:29 |
Eveline Eleanor Last name Nurse Birth year 1884 Birth date 08 Mar 1884 Baptism year 1884 Baptism date 04 Apr 1884 Denomination Anglican Place Coventry, St Michael Father's first name(s) Alfred Father's last name Nurse Mother's first name(s) Ellen Residence Much Park St Father's occupation Carpenter County Warwickshire Country England Document type Parish registers Archive Warwickshire County Record Office Archive reference DR0090/24 Event Baptisms Page 142 Records year range 1880-1886
1891 Much Park Street, Coventry St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Alfred Nurse Head Married Male 28 1863 Carpenter & Undertaker Coventry, Warwickshire, England Ellen Nurse Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Eveline Elenor Nurse Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Alfred Nurse Son - Male 2 1889 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
1901 65, Yardley Street, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Thomas Lindon Head Widower Male 73 1828 General Fitter Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Esther Lindon Daughter Single Female 35 1866 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England George Lindon Son Single Male 28 1873 Cycle Fitter Coventry, Warwickshire, England Edward Lindon Son Single Male 25 1876 Cycle Fitter Coventry, Warwickshire, England Alfred Lindon Son Single Male 23 1878 Cycle Fitter Coventry, Warwickshire, England Ellen Nurse Daughter Married Female 39 1862 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Evelyn Nurse Grand Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Golf Ball Maker Coventry, Warwickshire, England Maud Nurse Grand Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England William Nurse Grand Son Single Male 2 1899 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Herbert Nurse Grand Son Single Male 0 1901 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England John Riley Boarder Single Male 33 1868 Cycles Turner Coventry, Warwickshire, England
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ErikaH
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5 Feb 2020 16:33 |
a freebie for you - I'll let you look for the rest
NURSE, WILLIAM EDWARD LINDON GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 593
.....and don't forget possible spelling variant of MMN
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Maddie
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5 Feb 2020 16:33 |
parents 1911 13A Canterbury Street Coventry, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Alfred Nurse Father Married Male 48 1863 Joiner Warwickshire Coventry Ellen Nurse Mother Married Female 49 1862 - Warwickshire Coventry Alfred Nurse Son Single Male 22 1889 Process Etcher Warwickshire Coventry Maud Nurse Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Weaver Silk Warwickshire Coventry Willie Nurse Son - Male 12 1899 - Warwickshire Coventry Herbert Nurse Son - Male 10 1901 - Warwickshire Coventry
6 children born, 1 died
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beanie
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6 Feb 2020 13:26 |
Thanks ever so much! I’ve got the Lindon connection - although I think I’ve got Alfred Lyndon if I remember correctly! Yeah it seems a family with messy records - great advice there above re the hints - they’re blooming awful and yes you end up with a family tree as useful as a chocolate fire guard. This is why I’m now going through the records with a forensic tooth comb - and - it’s getting there somewhat with the exception of my Dad’s mainline - the records simply aren’t there it seems, So I’ve moved on to the Nurses - as usual now a heavily relying on the census and, before that, baptism records.
In short I’ve learnt my lesson there!
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Maddie
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6 Feb 2020 13:33 |
the child that died ??? ALICE Last name NURSE Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1894 Age 4 Death quarter 1 Death year 1898 District Coventry County Warwickshire Volume 6D Page 355
ALICE Last name NURSE Birth year 1893 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Lindon District Foleshill County Warwickshire Country England Volume 6D Page 481
Name: Alice Nurse Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1895 Baptism Place: Coventry, St Peter, Warwickshire, England Parish: Coventry, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Coventry, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Alfred Nurse Mother: Ellen Nurse
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Maddie
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6 Feb 2020 13:53 |
Herbert Nurse Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1901 Baptism Place: Coventry, St Peter, Warwickshire, England Parish: Coventry, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Coventry, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Alfred Nurse Mother: Ellen Nurse
Name: William Edward Nurse Gender: Male Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1901 Baptism Place: St. Peter's Church, Coventry, Warwick, England Father: Alfred Nurse Mother: Ellen FHL Film Number: 1067462 Reference ID: 57
Name: Maud May Nurse Gender: Female Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1895 Baptism Place: Coventry, Warwick, England Father: Alfred Nurse Mother: Ellen FHL Film Number: 1067461
Alfred Nurse Baptism Date: 3 May 1889 Baptism Place: Coventry, St Michael, Warwickshire, England Parish: Coventry, St Michael Search Photos: Search for 'Coventry, St Michael' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Alfred Nurse Mother: Ellen Nurse
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beanie
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6 Feb 2020 18:58 |
OK, so we have Herbert, William, Maud, Alfred and Alice? That's 5 instead of the 6 someone suggested earlier? Are you all content with that and thanks again!
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greyghost
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6 Feb 2020 19:10 |
You also have Eveline.
All births are shown on the GRO site posted by ErikaH - use variant spelling for MMN - some are Lindon, others Lyndon
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Maddie
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7 Feb 2020 10:17 |
baptisms posted above for all 6
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beanie
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10 Feb 2020 17:21 |
Ah yes of course, thanks! I'd ended up with 11 kids - probably best to get them in order before researching further (as I have been able to with your help - thanks all) before moving onwards! I think we've done this one to death now - thanks very much again!
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beanie
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11 Feb 2020 00:24 |
Uggh, this lack of any decent records goes back even further on the Nurse Family. Would people agree that Edward Nurse, born in Atherstone, Warwickshire, in 1831, who married Ann Roe Arnold, born in Coventry in 1835, had the following children:
Edward Nurse 1852 - 1927 John Nurse 1854 - 1924 James Nurse 1855 - 1826 Ann E Nurse - 1858 - 1953 Catherine Nurse - 1860 - 1844 Alfred Nurse - 1862 - 1927 Henry Nurse - 1865 - Margaret Nurse - 1867 - Emily Nurse - 1870 - William Norman Nurse - 1875 - 1949
No census records with ages or positions within the family, no baptism records suggested. I do dispair.
Edit: I've since tried to look up the baptisms and I don't think the following are Ann Roe Arnold and Edward Nurses' (i.e. i'm not sure where they fit in) - so, again, would you agree?
William Emily Alfred Catherine Henry Margaret
are not their children?
Thanks.
Thanks!
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Maddie
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11 Feb 2020 11:00 |
Report an Error Report a transcription error. First name(s) Edward Last name Nurse Birth year - Baptism year 1852 Baptism date 03 Mar 1852 Denomination Anglican Place Coventry, St Michael Father's first name(s) Edward Father's last name Nurse Mother's first name(s) Ann Roe Residence Jordan Well Father's occupation Servant County Warwickshire Country England Document type Parish registers Archive Warwickshire County Record Office Archive reference DR0090/20 Event Baptisms Page 81 Records year range 1850-1858
Ann Elizabeth Last name Nurse Birth year - Baptism year 1858 Baptism date 22 Sep 1858 Denomination Anglican Place Coventry, St Michael Father's first name(s) Edward Father's last name Nurse Mother's first name(s) Ann Residence Union St Father's occupation Servant County Warwickshire Country England
Report an Error Report a transcription error. First name(s) James Last name Nurse Birth year - Baptism year 1856 Baptism date 04 May 1856 Denomination Anglican Place Coventry, St Michael Father's first name(s) Edward Father's last name Nurse Mother's first name(s) Ann Residence Union St Father's occupation Servant County Warwickshire Country England
John Last name Nurse Birth year - Baptism year 1856 Baptism date 04 May 1856 Denomination Anglican Place Coventry, St Michael Father's first name(s) Edward Father's last name Nurse Mother's first name(s) Ann Residence Union St Father's occupation Servant County Warwickshire
EMILY Last name NURSE Birth year 1870 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Arnold District Coventry
71 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St John Street, St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edward Nurse Head - Male 40 1831 - Warwickshire, England Ann R Nurse Wife - Female 36 1835 - Warwickshire, England Edward Nurse Son - Male 19 1852 - Warwickshire, England John Nurse Son - Male 17 1854 - Warwickshire, England James Nurse Son - Male 15 1856 - Warwickshire, England Ann E Nurse Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Warwickshire, England Catherine Nurse Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Warwickshire, England Alfred Nurse Son - Male 8 1863 - Warwickshire, England Henry Nurse Son - Male 6 1865 - Warwickshire, England Margaret Nurse Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Warwickshire, England Emily Nurse Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Warwickshire, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Court 1, 1, Union Street, St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Edward Nurse Head Married Male 29 1832 Groom & Coachman Atherstone, Warwickshire, England Ann R Nurse Wife Married Female 26 1835 Carder Of Fringes Coventry, Warwickshire, England Edward Nurse Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England John Nurse Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England James Nurse Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England Ann E Nurse Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Catherine Nurse Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
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11 Feb 2020 11:04 |
1881 Back, 129, Much Park Street, Coventry St Michael with St John, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Edward Nurse Head Married Male 50 1831 Coachman Domt Servt Atherstone, Warwickshire, England Ann Roe Nurse Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England James Nurse Son Single Male 26 1855 Coachman Dom Servt Coventry, Warwickshire, England Alfred Nurse Son Single Male 18 1863 Apprentice Joiner Coventry, Warwickshire, England Henry Nurse Son Single Male 16 1865 Apprentice Jockey Coventry, Warwickshire, England Margaret Nurse Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Apprentice Dressmaker Coventry, Warwickshire, England Emily Nurse Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England William N Nurse Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Coventry, Warwickshire, England
1891 Much Park Street, Coventry St Michael, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Edward Nurse Head Married Male 60 1831 Coachman Domestic Servant Atherstone, Warwickshire, England Ann Rose Nurse Wife Married Female 56 1835 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England Emily Nurse Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Box Maker Coventry, Warwickshire, England William Norman Nurse Son Single Male 16 1875 Cycle Machinist Coventry, Warwickshire, England George Clark Boarder Married Male 23 1868 Tobacconist Assistant Coventry, Warwickshire, England Margaret Clark Boarder Married Female 24 1867 - Coventry, Warwickshire, England
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Maddie
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11 Feb 2020 11:32 |
CATHERINE Last name NURSE Birth year 1860 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Arnold District Coventry
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11 Feb 2020 11:39 |
Nurse Ann Elizabeth 1858 — 1858 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Nurse Catherine 1860 — 1860 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Nurse Emily 1870 — 1870 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Nurse James 1855 — 1855 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Nurse Margaret 1866 — 1866 England & Wales Births . Nurse William Norman 1875 — 1875 England & Wales Births
mmn arnold
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Maddie
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11 Feb 2020 11:44 |
MARY Last name NURSE Birth year 1868 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Arnold
Mary Last name Nurse Age 0 Birth year 1868 Death year 1868 Burial year 1868 Burial date 01 Nov 1868 Church London Road Civic Cemetery Place Coventry County Warwickshire
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greyghost
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11 Feb 2020 13:20 |
Unless there was another Nurse/Arnold marriage in the time frame, then using the free GRO site - as previously suggested - will bring up the births to your couple.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
Your OP suggests you have census access so you should be able to cross reference
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
NURSE, EDWARD ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 372
NURSE, JOHN ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 341 NURSE, JAMES ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 359
NURSE, ANN ELIZABETH ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 357
NURSE, CATHERINE ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 375
NURSE, ALFRED ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 395 NURSE, - ARNOLD *** presume Henry but unnamed at registration GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 405
NURSE, MARGARET ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 439
NURSE, MARY ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 410
NURSE, EMILY ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 416
NURSE, WILLIAM NORMAN ARNOLD GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in COVENTRY Volume 06D Page 499
11 born but Mary died as posted earlier
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