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31 Jan 2020 01:54 |
Looking for any information on Joyce Martha Banks she live at 44 Chapel St Accrington in 1918. She was born in Shropshire.
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31 Jan 2020 07:26 |
Welcome to the boards Anne.
What more can you tell us so we can help.
About how old was she in 1918?
Was that her birth name or married name?
Was she living with anyone?
How did you work back to her, is she related to you?
What is the significance of the 1918 address?
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31 Jan 2020 07:32 |
Could this be her birth - from this FREE to use site https://www.freebmd.org.uk
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Mar 1895 (>99%) Banks Joyce Martha Madeley 6a 639
and also here - you need to register but then FREE to use. Shows Mother's maiden name pre 1912 whereas freebmd doesn't
https://www.gro.gov.uk Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BANKS, JOYCE MARTHA MICKLEWRIGHT GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in MADELEY UNION Volume 06A Page 639
It's a good idea to get used to using both sites
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31 Jan 2020 08:03 |
Then look for her in census records -
1911 Census For England & Wales 48 St Edmund St Great Harwood, Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Williams Banks Head Married Male 39 1872 Coal Miner Hewer Tottleworth Lanc Elizabeth Ann Banks Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Liverpool Lanc Thomas Banks Son Single Male 17 1894 Warehouse Boy Cotton Gt Harwood Joyce Martha Banks Daughter Single Female 16 1895 Winder Cotton Gt Shropshire Avon Bridge Jane Hannah Banks Daughter - Female 14 1897 Reacher Cotton Gt Harwood Lanc Absolom Banks Son - Male 11 1900 School Gt Harwood Lanc Alice Banks Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Gt Harwood Lanc George Banks Boarder Single Male 30 1881 Reacher Cotton Gt Harwood Lanc
Original shows William and Elizabeth have been married 4 years and had one child
------------------------- So ? this marriage with daughter Alice
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) BANKS William Blackburn 8e 749 <<<<<<<<<< BENTLEY Rhoda Blackburn 8e 749 Gayman Elizabeth Ann Blackburn 8e 749 <<<<<<<<< MATTISON Charles Blackburn 8e 749
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BANKS, ALICE GAYMEN GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 333
So looks like Joyce had a different Mother
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31 Jan 2020 08:04 |
This looks to be Joyce in 1901 with family
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 11, Road, Great Harwood, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Banks Head Married Male 28 1873 Coal Miner Drawer Rishton, Lancashire, England Eliza E Banks Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Ironbridge, Shropshire, England Joyce M Banks Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Ironbridge, Shropshire, England Jane H Banks Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Great Harwood, Lancashire, England Absolom Banks Son - Male 1 1900 - Great Harwood, Lancashire, England George Banks Brother Single Male 20 1881 Labourer Out Door Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
------------------------ But again - Both younger children have a different Mother's maiden name
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BANKS, JANE HANNAH NICHOLLS GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 355
BANKS, ABSALOM NICHOLLS GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 346
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31 Jan 2020 08:24 |
Going back to the Thomas on the 1911 census - he may also have Nicholls as mmn
BANKS, THOMAS NICHOLLS GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 364
and there would be this marriage to back that up, but then Joyce's birth makes no sense
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%) Banks William Blackburn 8e 546 Duckworth Betsy Ann Blackburn 8e 546 Nicholls Eliza Ellen Blackburn 8e 546 Wilkinson Robert Bradley Blackburn 8e 546
Need to dig deeper, but out of time for the moment. Will try to get back later, but someone else may be up and around by now and sort it out
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Jan 2020 09:09 |
church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Joyce Martha Banks Gender: Female Age: 32 Birth Year: abt 1895 Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 16 Apr 1927 Parish: Haslingden, Lancashire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Haslingden' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Spouse: Fred Wood Spouse Age: 26 Father: William Banks Spouse Father: Fred Wood Register Type: Parish Register
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Jan 2020 09:10 |
Joyce M Wood Death Age: 62 Birth Date: abt 1895 Registration Date: Oct 1957 [Nov 1957] [Dec 1957] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Haslingden Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10c Page: 381
She left a will She died in the Royal Victoria hospital Accrington.and left her estate to her husband Fred Wood
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31 Jan 2020 09:11 |
Perhaps Eliza's mother married and Micklewright was her stepfather's surname?
First name(s) Eliza Ellen Last name Nicholls Birth year - Baptism year 1871 Baptism date 25 Sep 1871 Denomination Anglican Place Ironbridge Father's first name(s) - Mother's first name(s) Julia Nicholls Mother's last name - Residence - County Shropshire Register type Baptism Register date range 1870-1900 Archive reference P145/A/1/2 Page 7 Record set Shropshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Jan 2020 09:15 |
This is Joyce baptism
Joyce Martha Banks Gender: Female Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1895 Baptism Place: Iron Bridge, Shropshire, England Father: William Banks Mother: Eliza Ellen FHL Film Number: 1657510 Reference ID: item 9-10 p 86
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ErikaH
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31 Jan 2020 09:52 |
This is the significance of the address - Haslingden district covers Accrington
Births Sep 1918 (>99%) Banks Annie Banks Haslingden 8e 146
This person is in the OP's tree
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31 Jan 2020 10:53 |
Annie Banks 1918–1989 BIRTH 26 MAY 1918 • 44 Chapel Street, Accrington, Lancashire, Eenland DEATH 17 JAN 1989 • Acacia Ridge, Queensland, Australia
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Marriages Dec 1948 Banks Annie Grieco Haslingden 10c 649 Grieco Giuseppe Banks Haslingden 10c 649
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31 Jan 2020 10:59 |
Here's where the Mickelwright comes from. Eliza Ellen's mother married a Mickelwright. Convenient that Joyce Martha's brother Thomas is with his grandmother in 1901.
Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Coalport Road, Madeley, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Mickelwright Head Married Male 52 1849 General Labourer Iron Bridge, Shropshire, England Julia Mickelwright Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Shifnal, Shropshire, England Ben Mickelwright Brother Single Male 46 1855 General Labourer Iron Bridge, Shropshire, England Thomas Banks Grand Son - Male 7 1894 - Lancashire, England
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31 Jan 2020 11:23 |
Just knew someone else would be around and sort it !!
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1875 (>99%) EDWARDS Thomas Madeley 6a 1157 Micklewright Thomas Madeley 6a 1157 <<<<< NICKLESS Julia Madeley 6a 1157 <<<<< ROGERS Hannah Madeley 6a 1157
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31 Jan 2020 11:30 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Ropers Hill, Madeley, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Micklewright Head Married Male 43 1848 General Laborer Madeley, Shropshire, England Julia Micklewright Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Shifnal, Shropshire, England Rose Hannah Micklewright Daughter Single Female 12 1879 - Ironbridge, Shropshire, England Martha A Trevor Visitor Single Female 15 1876 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England .
First name(s)
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31 Jan 2020 11:44 |
Watch for variant spellings -
Different spellings for first and surnames (Rose Hannah. Rosannah/Rosanna) and (Nicholls/Nicholes/Nickless).
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Ropas Hill, Madeley, Shropshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Micklewright Head Married Male 33 1848 Labourer Shropshire, England Lucy Micklewright Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Shifnal, Shropshire, England Eliza Micklewright Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Ironbridge, Shropshire, <<<<<<<< Rosannah Micklewright Daughter Single Female 2 1879 Scholar Ironbridge, Shropshire, England
------------------------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: MICKLEWRIGHT, ROSANNA NICHOLES GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in MADELEY UNION Volume 06A Page 681
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31 Jan 2020 11:55 |
First name(s) Julia Last name Nicholds Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1849 Baptism date 26 Aug 1849 Residence Shifnal, Shropshire, England Place Shifnal County Shropshire Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Nicholds Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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Anne
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8 May 2020 02:55 |
Thank you all for your help. Was wondering if I was to get Julia birth cert. what spelling of her last name would I have to use. Also as she also used Lucy its a bit confusing.
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Anne
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8 May 2020 03:55 |
Also How would I be able to find out who Eliza real father is?
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ErikaH
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8 May 2020 10:39 |
To order a copy of the birth cert, you must use the info exactly as per the GRO index, otherwise they will not supply it.
Having said that, was her birth actually registered? And you've got the names of her parents from the baptism.
If Eliza was illegitimate, you have no way of finding out who fathered her
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