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MartinHill

MartinHill Report 17 Jan 2020 12:24

Searching for Florence Emily Grundy. No exact birth date, around 1921.

Married William Bertram Hill, b 30/12/1914 on 18/05/1939 at Prenton parish church.Birkenhead. William passed away 01/06/1967.

Florence possibly re married a John Shepherd in the Liverpool area.

Addresses include 75 marion street, birkenhead. (1940ish)
55 prenton park road. Birkenhead 1943.

Any help welcome. Thanks

:-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 12:35

Start by finding birth info on freebmd

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Jan 2020 12:51

1939 register entry - gives a DOB, so birth reg. should be Sep. or Dec Qtr 1920

Florence E Hill's life in 1939
17 Fire Station, Flat 8 Whetstone Lane, Birkenhead C.B., Cheshire, England

Hill household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William B Hill 30 Dec 1914 Male Fireman Fire Brigade Married 7 1

The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?

Florence E Hill 22 Sep 1920 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 7 2
Ref: RG101/3915H/024/24 Letter Code: LACR
© Findmypast Ltd

Original record on FMP also has William hidden from view

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Jan 2020 13:04

No obvious birth unless second initial added later -

Surname First name(s) Mother/Age District Vol Page
Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Grundy Florence Grindrod Skipton 9a 82

EDIT - no, this child appears to have died
Deaths Sep 1920 (>99%)
GRUNDY Florence 0 Skipton 9a 47


Do you have the marriage certificate - what are Father's names and occupations?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 13:15

There appear to have been two children from the marriage - have you done anything about trying to trace them?

The elder of these MAY have married in 1965 in Blackpool

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 13:25

This death matches the Probate record, but NOT the birth year

Deaths Jun 1967 (>99%)
Hill William B 51 Blackpool 10b 500

First name(s) William Bertram
Last name Hill
Death year 1967
Death date 01 Jun 1967
Probate year 1967
Probate date 26 Jul 1967
Registry London
Registry county London
Country England
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1960-2019

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 13:28

The marriage you mention to Shepherd is not in the name of Hill, so were she and Hill divorced?

Explains why the marriage wasn't added to the 1939 register

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Jan 2020 13:38

Probate record posted by ErikaH shows widow as Frances Hill and a Blackpool address.

?? A William B Hill marries a Frances Shallcross 1963, Barton, Lancs

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jan 2020 13:47

Marriage announcement. Just mentions he was an only son of Mr and Mrs Hill of Birkenhead. She was an only daughterof Mr and Mrs Grundy of Prenton

People In The News

First name(s) Florence Emily
Last name Grundy
Periodical Liverpool Echo
Location Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Birkenhead
Publication date 18 May 1939
Page number 9
Publication place Liverpool, Lancashire
Other names William Bertram Hill
Record set People In The News

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 13:49

Possible Shepherd/Grundy births on freebmd

Too recent to post here - you can easily find them yourself

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jan 2020 14:24

People In The News

First name(s) William Bertram
Last name Hill
Periodical Liverpool Echo
Location Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Publication date 8 January 1943
Page number 3
Publication place Liverpool, Lancashire
Other names G. C. Mort, Frederick Burcher
Record set People In The News


The coroner, G C Mort had praised Leading Fireman William Bertram Hill at an inquest into the death of Frederick Burcher. He had fallen into the dock during a blackout and the fireman had gone in to drag him out. Hill's address was 224 Park Road, Stretford, Manchester.

MartinHill

MartinHill Report 17 Jan 2020 14:55

Father possibly

Thomas Henry Grundy, b 1882

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 15:28

Unfortunately, you've 'marked as answered', which means that people will assume you have all the info you want, which clearly isn't the case

Never 'mark as answered' unless the query is 100% resolved

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jan 2020 15:40

Ok, so possible birth for Florence.


Births Dec 1920

Leah Florence E Heaps Barton I. 8c 1055



Her mother's birth and marriages.

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
Heaps Lily Rigley Prestwich 8d 383



Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Clements Charles Evans Barton I. 8c 1493
Evans Margaret E Clements Barton I 8c 1493
>>Heaps Lily R Leah Barton L 8c 1493
>>Leah Toma Heaps Barton I. 8c 1493




Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)
>>Grundy Thomas H Leah Birkenhead 8a 1177
>>Grundy Thomas H Heaps Birkenhead 8a 1177
Hallam Ellis N Parker Birkenhead 8a 1177
>>Heaps Lily R Grundy Birkenhead 8a 1177
>>Leah Lily R Grundy Birkenhead 8a 1177
Parker Jessie Hallam Birkenhead 8a 1177


and in 1939.


55 Prentonpark Road, Birkenhead C.B., Cheshire, England

Grundy household
(2 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas H Grundy 15 Mar 1883 Male Bricklayer Married 347 1
Lily R Greendy 28 Apr 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 347 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2020 15:57

No further forward with finding Florence after her second marriage

What have you done yourself to try to trace her?

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jan 2020 16:29

There is a tree on ancestry with this on.


florence emily grundy
1920–2012
Birth 1920 • Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death 2012

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jan 2020 16:54

That death ??

SHEPHERD, FLORENCE EMILY yob 1920
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2012 in Hertfordshire (538-1T) Entry Number 507112523

ER for 2002 shows a Florence E Shepherd living in St Albans, Herts.
Age given as 99-103.
I suppose if your Florence were still alive, she would indeed now be 99-100.

MartinHill

MartinHill Report 4 Feb 2020 11:57

I have found a newspaper clipping on line from the Liverpool Echo left by a relative saying that she passed away in 2014. Any idea how to locate the grave site?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Feb 2020 12:23

Go to the GRO website and look for her death. When you find it, order a copy of the cert for last address. Then look for cemeteries in the vicinity. But bear in mind that she may have been cremated

It would be good if you acknowledged the info people have taken the trouble to find for you

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Feb 2020 12:42

Does the newspaper clipping say where she died?

The only 2014 death of a Florence Shepherd that I can see is of a Florence Elizabeth, in Somerset.