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15 Jan 2020 21:57 |
Thanks ArgyllGran!
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15 Jan 2020 21:07 |
The GRO site is free to use, though you have to register:
https://www.gro.gov.uk
Very useful. It gives mms for births 1837 - 1919 (England & Wales). Also age at death, 1837 - 2019, although with a gap 1957-84. It's therefore also the place to look for recent deaths in England & Wales.
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15 Jan 2020 21:01 |
You lot are bloomin’ legends - lets hope my Cousin enjoys it when it’s finished and thanks for helping me to give him this - must admit, like I said before, I’ve always been interested in his blood too and he’s a really nice guy - Erika asked me a fair question, the answer is probably, God’s honest, that I got myself into a mess, but, as I interpret this, this evening, I shall come back and explain further. Can I ask, for further reference, for a few pointers on how the people who were kind enough to dig today approached this please? Obviously I got stuck. Are some of you using some sort of direct GRO access? I’m using Ancestry and Free BMD as a backup - thanks so much again!
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15 Jan 2020 16:39 |
Name: Jemina Gathercoal Gender: Female Marriage Date: 11 Oct 1791 Marriage Place: Little Fransham, Norfolk, England Spouse: William Parry FHL Film Number: 2262437 Reference ID: p 15
Name: Jemima Gathercole Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: Abt 1769 Baptism Date: 14 May 1769 Baptism Place: Saham Toney, Norfolk, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Gathercole Mother: Jemima Gathercole
Name: Ann Perry Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 3 Dec Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1796 Baptism Place: Little Fransham, Norfolk, England Father: William Perry Mother: Jemima Perry Parish as it Appears: Little Fransham
Name: Thos Perry Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: Abt 1805 Baptism Date: 6 Jan 1805 Baptism Place: Little Fransham, Norfolk, England Father: Wm Perry Mother: Jemina Perry
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Name: Jemima Perry Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1771 Gender: Female Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Little Fransham Hundred: Launditch County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Mitford Sub-registration district: East Dereham Piece: 778 Book: 11 Folio: 6 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age William Perry 70 Jemima Perry 70
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15 Jan 2020 16:39 |
Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Norfolk Place Great Fransham Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 56 Marriage date 26 Nov 1857 Groom forename Walter Groom surname PERRY Groom age 22 Groom condition Bachelor Groom occupation Shoemaker Groom abode Great Fransham Bride forename Elizabeth Bride surname JARY Bride age 26 Bride condition Spinster Bride abode Great Fransham Groom father forename Thomas Groom father surname PERRY Groom father occupation Shoemaker Bride father forename John Bride father surname JARY Bride father occupation Dead Witness1 John JARY Witness2 Mary Ann BENN[SY] Notes He signed X File line number 175
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15 Jan 2020 16:36 |
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Name: Walton Perry Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Perry Gender: Male Where born: Little Fransham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Little Fransham Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Mitford Sub-registration district: Dereham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Piece: 1825 Folio: 194 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Perry 46 Walton Perry 16 Thos Perry 14 Mary Ann Perry 12 Jemima Perry 83 - Mother
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15 Jan 2020 16:36 |
Name: Elizabeth Jary Gender: Female Age: 26 Birth Date: 1831 Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1857 Marriage Place: Fransham, Norfolk, England Father: John Jary Spouse: Walter Perry Birth Date: 1835 Father: Thomas Perry FHL Film Number: 2262493 Reference ID: item 6 p 28
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:28 |
PERRY, ZECHARIAH JERRY GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in MITFORD Volume 04B Page 258
PERRY, THOMAS JOHN JERRY GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in MITFORD Volume 04B Page 297 1861 Cottage, Beeston Road, Great Fransham, Mitford, Norfolk, England Walter Perry Head Married Male 25 1836 Shoemaker Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Elizabeth Perry Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Zachariah Perry Son Unmarried Male 0 1861 - Great Fransham, Norfolk, England
Marriages Dec 1857 (>99%)
Jary Elizabeth Mitford 4b 745 Perry Walter Mitford 4b 745
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:24 |
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High Green, Great Fransham, Mitford, Norfolk, England Elizabeth Perry Head Widow Female 50 1831 Shoemakers Wife Great Dunham, Norfolk, England Zacheriah Perry Son Single Male 21 1860 Ag. Labourer Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Thomas J Perry Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Walter M Perry Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Great Fransham, Norfolk, England
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:23 |
PERRY, WALTER JERRY GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in MITFORD Volume 04B Page 282
Mitford is the district for his birthplace as per census info.
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Maddie
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15 Jan 2020 16:21 |
1881 Name: Walter M. Perry Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relationship to Head: Son Mother: Elizabeth Perry Gender: Male Where born: Great Fransham Civil Parish: Great Fransham County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: High Green Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Mitford ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: Piece: 1981 Folio: 40 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Perry 50 Zacheriah Perry 21 Thomas J. Perry 12 Walter M. Perry 8
Name: Walter Perry Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1835 Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1857 Marriage Place: Great Fransham, Norfolk, England Search Photos: Search for 'Great Fransham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Thomas Perry Spouse: Elizabeth Gary
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:15 |
Name: Winifred Rose Sheldrick Death Age: 82 Birth Date: 29 Apr 1898 Registration Date: Apr 1980 [May 1980] [Jun 1980] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Bury St edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 10 Page: 2193
Name: Winifred Rose Sheldrick Register Type: Cremation Death Date: abt 1980 Burial or Cremation Date: 6 Jun 1980 Burial or Cremation Place: Cambridgeshire, England
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:11 |
PERRY, FREDERICK THOMAS BARTON GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 526
PERRY, FRANK WILLOUGHBY BARTON GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 449
PERRY, BEATRICE ELIZABETH BARTON GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 460
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:06 |
Why did you latch on to the 1901 record, when you have Winfired's actual DOB from the 1939 register?
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:05 |
Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) Barton Rosetta Mildenhall 4a 897 Perry Walter Meacham Mildenhall 4a 897
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:04 |
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4 Hiltons Cottages Queen Street New Market, Newmarket, Cambridgeshire & Suffolk, England Walter Perry Head Married Male 38 1873 Tailor Great Fransham Norfolk Rosella Perry Wife Married Female 43 1868 - Freckham Suffolk Frederick Perry Son Single Male 14 1897 Grocers Assistant Newmarket Cambs Winifred Perry Daughter - Female 12 1899 School Newmarket Cambs Beatrice Perry Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Newmarket Cambs Frank Perry Son - Male 4 1907 - Newmarket Cambs
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 16:01 |
First name(s) WINIFRED ROSE Last name SHELDRICK Gender Female Birth day 29 Birth month 4 Birth year 1898 Death quarter 2 Death year 1980 District Bury St. Edmunds County Suffolk Volume 10 Page 2193
From the FREE - easy to use - GRO site PERRY, WINIFRED ROSE BARTON GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 524
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ErikaH
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15 Jan 2020 15:56 |
Which sites have you used for researching?
Have you thought of buying the 1926 marriage cert?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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15 Jan 2020 15:56 |
Dec qtr 1926 Sheldrick Thomas W Perry Mildenhall 4a 1444
Marriages Sep 1926 Perry Winifred R Sheldrick Newmarket 3b 1273 Sheldrick Elliott J Perry Newmarket 3b 1273
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: PERRY, WINIFRED ROSE BARTON GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 524
1901 census
Walter Perry Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Rosella Perry Birth Place: Gt Fransham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Newmarket All Saints Search Photos: Search for 'Newmarket All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Newmarket All Saints Town: Newmarket County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Newmarket Sub-registration district: Newmarket ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1541 Folio: 154 Page Number: 14 Household schedule number: 89 Household Members: Name Age Walter Perry 28 Rosella Perry 34 Frederick Perry 4 Winifred Perry 2 William Nicholls 22 boarder
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beanie
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15 Jan 2020 15:50 |
Born in Mildenhall, Suffolk.
Hi, I am trying to track back his Mum’s side as a gesture to a distant cousin - he doesn’t have much in the way of relations now his Mum and Dad have both passed. I’m also interested in where my distant cousin comes from too. Ive done literally every connection I can find for the Sheldrick family - his Dad’s side, that’s cool, they don’t stray further for the majority of the time than the East and South East of England (with some London).
His Paternal Mother’s side is an entire mystery! And it doesn’t help that she was a Perry (possibly with special differences too). So here’s the facts:
1. I have Thomas on Not Tree Farm in Mildenhall with Dad Elliot G Sheldrick and Mum Winifred R Sheldrick in the 1939 census.
2. I have a Newmarket marriage between Elliot Sheldrick and Winifred Perry for July 1926.
3. I have a baptism record for a Winifred Rose Sophia Perry baptised 25 August 1901 in Standon, Hertford (not sure if it’s the correct record). The Father is listed as Arthur Perry, the Mother is listed as Eleanor.
4. I’m stuck on both Arthur’s and Eleanor’s from there - the records I’ve seen would suggest that they were both born Perry but I’d like to think this is was not true.
Thanks as always.
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