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You may need the Scotlandspeople website to find more about him.

Kath. x

This could be Joseph in the 1901 census:-

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Bryan
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 17
Birth year 1884
Birth town -
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed ENGLAND
Birth county -
Occupation Student <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
House name -
House number -
Street -
Town Dumfries
Parish Dumfries
Country Scotland
County Dumfriesshire
Municipal ward -
Registration district Dumfries
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Archive reference RG13
Piece number -
Folio -
Page -
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

Kath. x

Could this be Joseph in a school admissions register? :-

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914

First name(s) Joseph
Last name Bryan
Birth year 1884
Birth date 03 Mar 1884
Event year 1892
School name St Anne's Roman Catholic Boys School
Town Whitechapel
County Middlesex
Country England
Parent name(s) James Bryan <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Book type Admissions
Archive reference I/STB/1/1/2
Folio / page no. -
Archive
Tower Hamlets Local History Archives & Library

The image gives the address as 291 Corfield Street. His last school was given as Parliament Street School. His reason for leaving school was that he had removed to Dumfries.

Kath. x

This looks like a possibility for his parents marriage:-

First name(s) JAMES
Last name BRYAN
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1863
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

JAMES BRYAN married one of these people

Maria Littlebury, >>>>>Catherine Collins<<<<<

District Greenwich
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Volume as transcribed 1D
Page number 981
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

.Many thanks for your interesting findings - though I wonder if/why 'my' Joseph was in Yorkshire. Hopefully (my) Joseph Patrick Collins Bryan can still be traced!

There has been a family rumour of ancestor/s going out to Aus -from 'a long way back' - slight possibility it may have been him.(?) I'm trying to exhaust all attempts in the UK before I start in Aus.

thanks again - Valerie

Not what you asked for but as it came up



Catharine Collins
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Catharine Collins
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1844
Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1844
Baptism Place: Clountead, Ballingarry and Ballymartle, Cork, Ireland
Parish Variants: Ballingarry, Ballymartle, Belgooly, Clontead, Clonthead, Clountead, Clounted
Diocese: Cork and Ross
Father: Pat Collins
Mother: Ellen Donovan

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Joseph Bryan
in the West Yorkshire, England, Prison Records, 1801-1914

Name: Joseph Bryan
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birth Place: London
Age: 19
Event Date: 12 Oct 1904
Prison or Quarter Session: HMP Wakefield
Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment or Servitude

Offence gaming 14 days or 14/3d find released

Discharged 18 Oct 1904

But there was another Joseph Bryan born in London Although was c1888

Problem is there are other Joseph Bryan born about the same time so if he didn’t use his second name it’s identifying the right one

Thank you all for your help.
I realise he's 'missing' from family 1901 (at 17yrs). (various possibilities for 'where')

Looks promising that could be his birth - as 1881 shows 'Ellen Collins' as 'mother-in-law' - (to his father James) -all living same household.

Sorry I have no more info - wouldn't know of their deaths.

Valerie

Was he joseph Patrick

BRYAN, JOSEPH PATRICK COLLINS
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 248

He isn’t with the family in 1901

Do you know he lived till after 1939

Please can you find (my) JOSEPH BRYAN b London 1883/4 (abt 56ys in1939).

(he appears 1891 census (age 7) in Bethnal Green) (Parents James/Catherine)

Any help appreciated …..Valerie