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beanie
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17 Dec 2019 12:23 |
Thank you for all of these!
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Catherine
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17 Dec 2019 11:04 |
1911 Name: Thomas Spencer Age in 1911: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Coventry Search Photos: Search for 'Coventry' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 12 Drapers Fields Coventry Marital status: Married Occupation: Watch Finisher Registration district: Coventry Registration District Number: 390 Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 18543 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Spencer 59 Hannah Elizabeth Spencer 59 James Thomas Spencer 23 Alfred Spencer 20 Herbert Timerick 34 Lizzie Timerick 31 Eliza Mascord 66 ...................................
Name: Lizzie Spencer Registration Year: 1907 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Coventry Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 1082 Records on Page: Name Walter Lamble Bartlett Eleanor Chapman Lizzie Spencer Herbert Timerick
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Catherine
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17 Dec 2019 11:00 |
1901 Name: Harriett Spencer Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Thomas Spencer Mother: Hannah E Spencer Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Coventry Search Photos: Search for 'Coventry' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 12 Drapers Field Occupation: Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity ED, institution, or vessel: 05 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2910 Folio: 111 Page Number: 9 Household schedule number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Spencer 40 Hannah E Spencer 49 Harriett Spencer 26 Lizzie Spencer 21 Emma Spencer 18 James Spencer 13 Alfred Spencer 10 .................................
Name: Elizabeth Ann Cakebread [Hannah Elizabeth Cakebread] Registration Year: 1871 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Coventry Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 832 Records on Page: Name Mary Ann Austin Elizabeth Ann Cakebread John Henry Lenton Thomas Spencer ......................................
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KathleenBell
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17 Dec 2019 10:55 |
Have you looked at the 1939 register that I posted above? That seems to be the couple you are looking for including the child Vera (who is actually Vera Maud but using her middle name).
You need to start with what you know from the present time and work backwards methodically buying certificates where necessary to confirm things.
If you want to send me a message with what you know for certain and I'll see what I can find.
Kath. x
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beanie
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17 Dec 2019 10:52 |
I know this is probably quite unorthodox but would anybody be kind enough to drop me a message as i'm struggling with the Coventry Spencer tree. I had initially gone with some initial suggestions that had proven not to add up and spent 4 years taking them as gospel, then I started looking at Ancestry's Family Trees, it seems that everybody has gone on what looks best without factual accuracy and now nothing adds up on records. I'm tearing my hair out - or, I could just start a whole thread on Coventry Spencer's not adding up but i'm getting so confused there'll be 100 questions on it! Thanks. Quite often replies seem to conflict too and that confuses me even more.
I'm losing heart with it a bit as when you have a common Surname, like Spencer, people just start guessing and none of the commercial products for tracing relatives allow or emphasise the certainty with which they have made an assertion - it feels that it is too much like guesswork and not about fact to the point where I just might as well make a pretty tree and pretend I go straight back to Althorpe/Wormleighton without bothering to factually back it up! Sorry im ranting i'm just extremely frustrated.
Edit - not directed at you lot - if anything - I think you'll share my frustration!
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KathleenBell
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17 Dec 2019 10:50 |
This is Vera's birth:-
First name(s) VERA M Last name HAYCOCK Birth year 1915 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Spencer District Coventry County Warwickshire Country England Volume 6D Page 1347 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
This is Vera Haycock's marriage:-
First name(s) VERA M Last name HAYCOCK Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1940 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
VERA M HAYCOCK married one of these people
Bernard C Bailey
Spouse's last name Bailey District Coventry District number - County Warwickshire Country England Volume 6D Volume as transcribed 6D Page number 2657 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
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KathleenBell
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17 Dec 2019 10:45 |
This looks like the couple in the 1939 register and would confirm an 1875 birth:-
6 Somerset Road, Coventry C.B., Warwickshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number John Haycock 03 Jan 1872 Male Electrical Crane Inspector Married 346 1 Harriet Haycock 07 Aug 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 346 2 Maud V (Vera M) Bailey (Haycock) 12 Mar 1915 Female Typist Single 346 3
The birth which is in the correct quarter for an August birth:-
First name(s) HARRIET Last name SPENCER Birth year 1875 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Cakebread District Coventry County Warwickshire Country England Volume 6D Page 512 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
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KathleenBell
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17 Dec 2019 10:36 |
Is this their marriage? :-
First name(s) HARRIET Last name SPENCER Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1903 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
HARRIET SPENCER married one of these people
Maurice George Dadley, John Haycock
District Coventry District number - County Warwickshire Country England Volume 6D Volume as transcribed 6D Page number 1045 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
The marriage certificate should name her father which would help find the correct birth.
This marriage record does not give a middle initial for Harriet which would suggest the 1875 birth is more likely.
Do you know if the Harriet you are looking for has any siblings?
Kath. x
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beanie
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17 Dec 2019 09:47 |
..Haycock.
I've search for births of Harriet Spencer and I have two births in Coventry, one in 1875 and one in 1876.
The 1875 GR Record has the Mother's Maiden Name as Cakebread (widely held as the correct marriage on people's family trees).
The 1876 GR Record has the Mother's Maiden Name as Moore.
With real brain fog, i'm struggling to know which one is the correct one or is there just no way of knowing?
Thanks.
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