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I've search for births of Harriet Spencer and I have two births in Coventry, one in 1875 and one in 1876.

The 1875 GR Record has the Mother's Maiden Name as Cakebread (widely held as the correct marriage on people's family trees).

The 1876 GR Record has the Mother's Maiden Name as Moore.

With real brain fog, i'm struggling to know which one is the correct one or is there just no way of knowing?

Thanks.

Is this their marriage? :-

First name(s) HARRIET
Last name SPENCER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1903
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

HARRIET SPENCER married one of these people

Maurice George Dadley, John Haycock

District Coventry
District number -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Volume as transcribed 6D
Page number 1045
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

The marriage certificate should name her father which would help find the correct birth.

This marriage record does not give a middle initial for Harriet which would suggest the 1875 birth is more likely.

Do you know if the Harriet you are looking for has any siblings?

Kath. x

This looks like the couple in the 1939 register and would confirm an 1875 birth:-

6 Somerset Road, Coventry C.B., Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number

John Haycock 03 Jan 1872 Male Electrical Crane Inspector Married 346 1
Harriet Haycock 07 Aug 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 346 2
Maud V (Vera M) Bailey (Haycock) 12 Mar 1915 Female Typist Single 346 3

The birth which is in the correct quarter for an August birth:-

First name(s) HARRIET
Last name SPENCER
Birth year 1875
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Cakebread
District Coventry
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 512
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kath. x

This is Vera's birth:-

First name(s) VERA M
Last name HAYCOCK
Birth year 1915
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Spencer
District Coventry
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Page 1347
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

This is Vera Haycock's marriage:-

First name(s) VERA M
Last name HAYCOCK
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1940
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

VERA M HAYCOCK married one of these people

Bernard C Bailey

Spouse's last name Bailey
District Coventry
District number -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Volume 6D
Volume as transcribed 6D
Page number 2657
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

I know this is probably quite unorthodox but would anybody be kind enough to drop me a message as i'm struggling with the Coventry Spencer tree. I had initially gone with some initial suggestions that had proven not to add up and spent 4 years taking them as gospel, then I started looking at Ancestry's Family Trees, it seems that everybody has gone on what looks best without factual accuracy and now nothing adds up on records. I'm tearing my hair out - or, I could just start a whole thread on Coventry Spencer's not adding up but i'm getting so confused there'll be 100 questions on it! Thanks. Quite often replies seem to conflict too and that confuses me even more.

I'm losing heart with it a bit as when you have a common Surname, like Spencer, people just start guessing and none of the commercial products for tracing relatives allow or emphasise the certainty with which they have made an assertion - it feels that it is too much like guesswork and not about fact to the point where I just might as well make a pretty tree and pretend I go straight back to Althorpe/Wormleighton without bothering to factually back it up! Sorry im ranting i'm just extremely frustrated.

Edit - not directed at you lot - if anything - I think you'll share my frustration!

Have you looked at the 1939 register that I posted above? That seems to be the couple you are looking for including the child Vera (who is actually Vera Maud but using her middle name).

You need to start with what you know from the present time and work backwards methodically buying certificates where necessary to confirm things.

If you want to send me a message with what you know for certain and I'll see what I can find.

Kath. x

1901
Name: Harriett Spencer
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Thomas Spencer
Mother: Hannah E Spencer
Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Coventry
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Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Drapers Field
Occupation:
Registration district: Coventry
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2910
Folio: 111
Page Number: 9
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Spencer 40
Hannah E Spencer 49
Harriett Spencer 26
Lizzie Spencer 21
Emma Spencer 18
James Spencer 13
Alfred Spencer 10
.................................

Name: Elizabeth Ann Cakebread
[Hannah Elizabeth Cakebread]
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Coventry
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 832
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Ann Austin
Elizabeth Ann Cakebread
John Henry Lenton
Thomas Spencer
......................................

1911
Name: Thomas Spencer
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Coventry
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County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Drapers Fields Coventry
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Watch Finisher
Registration district: Coventry
Registration District Number: 390
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 18543
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Spencer 59
Hannah Elizabeth Spencer 59
James Thomas Spencer 23
Alfred Spencer 20
Herbert Timerick 34
Lizzie Timerick 31
Eliza Mascord 66
...................................

Name: Lizzie Spencer
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Coventry
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1082
Records on Page:
Name
Walter Lamble Bartlett
Eleanor Chapman
Lizzie Spencer
Herbert Timerick

Thank you for all of these!