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30 Nov 2019 15:10 |
Hello, does anybody know who John Bailey, born 1803, Coventry, living in the Rugby area on the census, married please? I have a first name, Harriet and children:
Betsy (Born 1824) Ann (Born 1827) Jane (Born 1830) William (Born 1833) Sarah (Born 1834) Thomas (Born 1836) Rebecca Born 1838) Charles (Great, Great Grandfather) (Born 1839( Harriett (Born 1841) John (Born 1846)
Thanks ever so much,
Benjamin-Elijah.
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Maddie
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30 Nov 2019 15:24 |
1841 for ref Long Lawford, Newbold on Avon, Rugby, Warwickshire, England John Bailey Male 38 1803 - Charlotte Bailey Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England Betsy Bailey Female 17 1824 - Ann Bailey Female 14 1827 - Jane Bailey Female 11 1830 - John Bailey Male 9 1832 - William Bailey Male 8 1833 - Sarah Bailey Female 6 1835 Warwickshire, England Thomas Bailey Male 4 1837 Warwickshire, England Rebecca Bailey Female 3 1838 Warwickshire, England Charles Bailey Male 1 1840 Warwickshire, England Harriet Bailey Female 0 1841 Warwickshire, England Richard Chmaberlain Male 15 1826 -
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beanie
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30 Nov 2019 15:37 |
Thanks for this, I wonder if her maiden name was Chamberlain? I'll do a search on GR and Ancestry.
Thanks.
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KathleenBell
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30 Nov 2019 15:39 |
If this is them in the 1851 census then John was born Northamptonshire:-
Household Members Lawford Hill, Rugby, Warwickshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Bailey Head Married Male 48 1803 Ag Lab Preston, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Warwickshire, England Thomas Bailey Son - Male 14 1837 Ag Lab Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Rebecca Bailey Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Charles Bailey Son - Male 11 1840 Plow Boy Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Harriett Bailey Daughter - Female 9 1842 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Jabez Bailey Son - Male 8 1843 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Eliza Bailey Daughter - Female 6 1845 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Clara Bailey Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
The 1841 census says that John was NOT born in county of census (that is NOT born Warwickshire).
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KathleenBell
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30 Nov 2019 15:43 |
Perhaps they never actually married.
Kath. x
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ErikaH
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30 Nov 2019 15:47 |
Why do you say his wife’s name was Harriet?
It wasn’t if the censuses are accurate
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Maddie
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30 Nov 2019 15:50 |
johns birthplace in 1851 Lawford Hill, Rugby, Warwickshire, England John Bailey Head Married Male 48 1803 Ag Lab Preston, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Warwickshire, England Thomas Bailey Son - Male 14 1837 Ag Lab Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Rebecca Bailey Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Charles Bailey Son - Male 11 1840 Plow Boy Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Harriett Bailey Daughter - Female 9 1842 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Jabez Bailey Son - Male 8 1843 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Eliza Bailey Daughter - Female 6 1845 School Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Clara Bailey Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
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Maddie
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30 Nov 2019 15:53 |
1861 Village, Long Lawford, Rugby, Warwickshire, England John Bailey Head Married Male 57 1804 Grocer & Farmer 20 Acres Preston, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 60 1801 Farmers Wife Warwickshire, England Sarah Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Charles Bailey Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Harriett Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Farmers Daughter Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Jabez Bailey Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, EnglandEngland
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KathleenBell
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30 Nov 2019 15:55 |
1861 census:-
Household Members Village, Long Lawford, Rugby, Warwickshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Bailey Head Married Male 57 1804 Grocer & Farmer 20 Acres Preston, Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Bailey Wife Married Female 60 1801 Farmers Wife Warwickshire, England Sarah Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Charles Bailey Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Harriett Bailey Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Farmers Daughter Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England Jabez Bailey Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Farmers Son Long Lawford, Warwickshire, England
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ErikaH
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30 Nov 2019 15:57 |
There’s a marriage in Northamptonshire in 1823 on FMP which might be worth looking at
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KathleenBell
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30 Nov 2019 16:01 |
JUST DELETED AND RE-POSTED AS THERE WAS A LOT OF UNNECESSARY INFORMATION ON THE LAST POST.THIS IS THE MARRIAGE:-
First name(s) JOHN Last name BAILEY Marriage year 1823 Marriage day 18 Marriage month Sep Marriage place PRESTON CAPES Parish Preston Capes Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte Spouse's last name Hardman Spouse's title - Spouse's parish Preston Capes Event Type Marriage By Banns or licence Banns County Northamptonshire Country England Record set Northamptonshire Marriages
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Maddie
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30 Nov 2019 16:02 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BAILEY, CHARLES WESLEY
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Charles Wesley Last name Bailey Age 30 Birth year 1840 Residence Gladstone ST Father's first name(s) John --------------- Father's last name Bailey Marriage year 1870 Marriage date 30 May 1870 Spouse's first name(s) Harriet Collerson Spouse's last name Rounds Spouse's age 30 Spouse's residence Gladstone St Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Rounds Denomination Anglican Place Leicester, St George County Leicestershire Country England
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beanie
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30 Nov 2019 16:08 |
Aww thanks everyone, so you are all confident it was Charlotte Hardman and NOT Harriet? :-)
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Maddie
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30 Nov 2019 16:12 |
is the above birth record your man
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Maddie
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30 Nov 2019 16:18 |
marraige of jabez
Jabez Last name Bailey Sex Male Age 21 Birth year 1843 Marital status bachelor Residence Long Lawford Occupation Labourer Marriage year 1864 Marriage date 12 Apr 1864 Denomination Anglican Place Newbold-On-Avon Spouse's first name(s) Caroline Spouse's last name Underwood Spouse's age 21 Spouse's birth year 1843 Spouse's marital status spinster Spouse's residence Newbold on Avon Spouse's occupation Dress Maker Father's name John Bailey ------ Father's occupation Farmer ----- Spouse's father's name William Underwood Spouse's father's occupation Labourer By licence or by banns Banns First witness Charles Bailey ----- Second witness Harriet Bailey ------ County Warwickshire Country England Document type Parish registers Archive Warwickshire County Record Office Archive reference DR0176/15
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Sarah Last name Bailey Gender Female Birth year 1834 Birth place - Baptism year 1836 Baptism date 28 Aug 1836 Place Rugby County Warwickshire Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Bailey Mother's first name(s) Charlote Mother's last name Hardman
Thomas Last name Bailey Gender Male Birth year 1836 Birth place - Baptism year 1836 Baptism date 28 Aug 1836 Place Rugby County Warwickshire Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Bailey Mother's first name(s) Charlote Mother's last name Hardman
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malyon
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30 Nov 2019 16:31 |
Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%) Bailey Charlotte 91 Rugby 6d 321
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malyon
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30 Nov 2019 16:38 |
Deaths Mar 1872 (>99%) BAILEY John 68 Rugby 6d 283
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KathleenBell
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30 Nov 2019 17:23 |
The 1871 census:-
In the Village (Hucksters Shop), Newbold on Avon, Rugby, Warwickshire,
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Bailey Head - Male 68 1803 - Northamptonshire, England Charlotte Bailey Wife - Female 70 1801 - Warwickshire, England
He's with Charlotte in every census and we've found a marriage that looks right. Where did you get the name Harriet from for his wife?
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greyghost
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30 Nov 2019 23:07 |
Birth registrations, from - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp.
The site is free to search, you just need to register
Note various first and surname spellings
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BAILEY, CHARLES WESLEY HARDMAN GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in THE RUGBY UNION Volume 16 Page 410
BAILEY, HARRIOT HARDIN GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in RUGBY Volume 16 Page 437
BAILEY, JAVIS HARDMAN GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in RUGBY Volume 16 Page 480
BAILEY, ELIZA HARDIMAN GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in RUGBY Volume 16 Page 462
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beanie
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17 Dec 2019 06:17 |
Thank you so much again folks :-) You're all life savers, regardless of whether I go off course or one or two of us do sometimes, we bring each other back onto the right page!
Cheers!
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