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Charles Wise

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WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 30 Nov 2019 11:28

My Great Grandfather born 1879, Crookham in Hampshire, died circa 1960 in North London (Tottenham, Islington area ?) I don't seem to have recorded a date for his passing and I'm unable to find such. He was married to Louisa Alice Stephens(1905) and had 2 daughters Gladys and Doris. Can anyone help please ?

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 11:41

1939 for ref
468 West Green Road, Tottenham M.B., Middlesex, England
Charles Wise 19 Jan 1879 Male Laundry Director Married 82 1
Louisa Wise 16 Feb 1879 Female Laundry Book Keeper Married 82 2
Doris (E F) Wise (Craigie) 25 Jul 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 82 3

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CHARLES
Last name WISE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 73
Death quarter 2
Death year 1951
District Barnet
County Middlesex
Volume 5A
Page 551

LOUISA A
Last name WISE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1881
Age 82
Death quarter 1
Death year 1963
District Edmonton
County Middlesex
Volume 5E
Page 391

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 30 Nov 2019 11:44

Births Mar 1879

WISE Charles .... Hartley W..... 2c 183

So recorded with no middle name at registration

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 30 Nov 2019 12:06

Same man indeed.

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 30 Nov 2019 12:07

He didn't die in '51. More like '63.

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 12:12

Is this his death:-

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name WISE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1879
Age 85
Death quarter 3
Death year 1964
District Wandsworth
County London
Volume 5D
Page 621
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

Kath. x

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 30 Nov 2019 12:17

I've seen that Kath and I don't know why his death would be registered
in Wandsworth ! The birth year is correct...

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 12:23

nothing on freebmd for north london apart for 1951, without middle initial or matching age

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Nov 2019 12:28

He could have just been visiting or in hospital, or there for work???

Kath. x

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 30 Nov 2019 12:48

He had a laundry business in Tottenham area and had been on Tottenham council. Hmm.

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 13:26

with louisa

Name: Charles Wise
Electoral Date: 1964
Street address: 468 West Green Road
Ward or Division/Constituency: West Green
County or Borough: Tottenham, England
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/1159

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 30 Nov 2019 13:50

Registered in '64 ? Interesting.

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

Maddie

Maddie Report 30 Nov 2019 13:59

still can't find a relevant death unless it is the wandsworth one
may need the cert to confirm :-)

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 1 Dec 2019 11:26

I have been in contact with my first cousin once removed who cannot pinpoint a date for his demise. She does know that he had dementia and she visited him in Tooting Bec mental asylum circa 1964 which she found most distressing. I imagine he died in there, his wife had predeceased him. My father doesn't seem have much of a memory of this. Does this help ?

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Dec 2019 11:29

Tooting Bec is in the London Borough of Wandsworth, south London, England. so it seems likely the wandsworth cert is his

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 1 Dec 2019 11:29

Kathleen Bell, you were right. He was in hospital. Tooting Bec Mental Hospital. The Wandsworth date is correct. Thank you everyone. Probably one of my unhappier finds. :-(

Researching:
Siggs of Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Essex and West London, Wise of North Hampshire, Wiltshire and North London and Aubrey/Whiting of South Wales/Herefordshire.