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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Nov 2019 14:33

Siblings:

WATKINS, HANNAH MARIA GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 571

WATKINS, THOMAS JOHN GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 573

WATKINS, WALTER GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 509

WATKINS, ELIZABETH ANN GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 488

WATKINS, GLADYS MAY GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 619

WATKINS, PHOEBE GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in PONTY PRIDD Volume 11A Page 584

WATKINS, GRIFFITH GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 594

WATKINS, IVOR GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 567

WATKINS, DOROTHY GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 601


The twins seem to have been the last straw - no more births after that!

However, I don't seethe family in 1901 or 1911 censuses.

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Nov 2019 15:18

1911 for them. Married 12 years, 10 living children, 2 died.

Name: Hannah M Walkins
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
Search Photos: Search for 'Pontypridd' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 7 New House Daggrag St Ponly Pridd Glamorgan
Marital status: Single
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Llantrisant
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 225
Piece: 32319
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Walkins 36
Emma Walkins 36
Thomas J Walkins 16
Hannah M Walkins 14
Elizabeth A Walkins 12
Walter Walkins 11
Gladys Walkins 8
Griffith Walkins 7
Doris Walkins 2

Written in : twins not registered, under 1 month.


and 1901


Name: Thos Watkins
Age in 1901: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse: Emma J Watkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Pridd
Search Photos: Search for 'Pridd' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Glyn Taf
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 4999
Folio: 43
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Watkins 26
Emma J Watkins 25 Blackwood, Monmouthshire,
Thos J Watkins 6
Hannah M Watkins 4
Elizth A Watkins 2

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Nov 2019 19:43

There’s no record for Elsie marrying a Keeping /s

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Nov 2019 20:42


It may help others if Deborah could some idea when her friends mother was born and where please to give an idea of what age Ivy may have been?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Nov 2019 21:04


Maybe a possible marriage??

Elsie M Watkins
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Elsie M Watkins
Registration Date: Jul 1943
[Aug 1943]
[Sep 1943]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Spouse: Frank E Middleton
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1107



Frank Edward Middleton
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Frank Edward Middleton
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1894
Registration Date: Jul 1969
[Aug 1969]
[Sep 1969]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 2489


EDIT:

No, I suspect this is his wife's death, in which case she's not the right Elsie:

Elsie Maud Middleton
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Elsie Maud Middleton
Death Age: 74
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1896
Registration Date: Jan 1971
[Feb 1971]
[Mar 1971]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 3071



By coincidence, Deborah's friend's Elsie's middle name was Maud:

WATKINS, ELSIE MAUD GOLDSWORTHY
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 625