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Don't know how many Robert Briggs Farm Servants there are (seeing 1851) but as below came up...

24 June 1858 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

Police Intelligence
Robert Briggs was charged with absenting himself from the service of Mr. John Richardson, farmer, of Epperstone. The defendant's only excuse was he thought he could do better by parting from his master. He was ordered to pay the expenses 20s 6d, and on promising to return to his master's service and behave better in the future, he was discharged.


1860 Marriage, where he was a Widower, occ. Coal Miner...
(wits. Joseph Clark, Ann Clark (Sister of Charlotte, Marriage 1842)

Chris :)

Edits (have you got that 1856 Marriage Cert., reference posted earlier?, a birth below)

Birth
BRIGGS, ALFRED THOMAS PETTENAR
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in THE NEWARK UNION Volume 07B Page 320

(looks like Death 1857 to match. Burial 24/7/57 Farndon)

That was only about the building.

Related to this thread
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1380507

EDIT - re post below - still relates to Elizabeth Briggs, good to tie one thread to another

Erika, yes that is him. He died in a mining accident I have the report on it from my father in law.

The trouble with leaving research for so long is you forget why you eliminated certain pieces of information. I have found all of the above pieces of information before. I think it's especially hard because Elizabeth was obviously a single mum and Robert didn't live with her. I thought they may have moved to Southwell at one point because in 1841 she is a servant in a house and Robert is a lodger in a house a few streets away.

I don't know how I'll ever know for certain it is them though

Thanks for your help :-)

If this is Robert's burial, his age is a year 'out' compared with his baptism

Name: Robert Briggs
Age: 32
Birth Year: 1833
Burial Date: 17 Aug 1865
Burial Place: Clay Cross, Derbyshire, England

Have you considered that the woman on 1841 isn't 'your' Elizabeth Briggs?

Robert isn't with her, so it may be a different woman

(ah!, that looks right, came across below (old) on google search of names.

https://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/ancestors/thread/890471?d=asc

Chris :)

Edits (FMP Baptism)

Nottinghamshire Baptisms Index 1538-1917
First name(s) Robert
Last name Briggs
Baptism year 1832
Baptism date 10 Jun 1832
Denomination Anglican
Church St Mary
Baptism place Bleasby
Relationship Son
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name Briggs
Residence Gibsmere

1841
Event Place:
Bleasby, Nottinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
Residence Note:
Hamlet Of Gibsmere
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Fish Male 70 Nottinghamshire
Mary Fish Female 65 Nottinghamshire
Maria Fish Female 11 Nottinghamshire
Robert Briggs Male 9 Nottinghamshire
William Dailey Male 20 Nottinghamshire

Name:
Robert Briggs

1851
Event Place:
Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Registration District:
Mansfield
Residence Note:
Newark Road
Gender:
Male
Age:
19
Marital Status:
Unmarried
Occupation:
Farm Servant
Relationship to Head of Household:
Servant
Birth Year (Estimated):
1832
Birthplace:
Bleasby, Nottinghamshire
Page Number:
19
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
2124 / 314
Affiliate Record Type:
Household

On familysearch site (FREE)


Name:
Robert Briggs
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
10 Jun 1832
Christening Date (Original):
10 JUN 1832
Christening Place:
BLEASBY,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
Mother's Name:
Elizabeth Briggs

County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 06 Aug 1801
Person forename Elizabeth
Person sex F
Mother forename Jane
Mother surname BRIGGS
Transcribed by John Turton
File line number 6290

So you think she moved from Nottingham to Southwell at some stage..............

I don't understand why his Father is Robert, are you saying he was 'made up'?...

Chris :)

That's fine

Was just checking because the 1841, as you know, doesn't record birthplace info

Chris, Charlotte and Robert already had a child when they married so I think that's why they were living in the same address already.

I have the marriage certificate for the Sarah hollis marriage as I thought it could have been the marriage but as you say the father is John Briggs so that doesn't talky either.

This is why I've left it for so many years now! :-D

Where was the Record found, Birth of Robert 1832?...

Chris :)

Erika, I know she was born 1801 because my father in law has a prayer book which used to be hers. In it is an inscription for her birth which was 1801. The book was signed by a rev. Dr berdsmore that I found was a past vicar at the church she was born in in 1801. Her mother who I think was Jane Briggs was also born at the church when rev berdsmore was actually a vicar there.

So I'm more or less sure that is her. :-)

Yes she is def Roberts mother. It says single mum where I found the record. I started researching this tree quite a few years ago now and had to leave it because I couldn't work Elizabeth out or get any further back. I've just decided to try and pick it up again.

Some one who helped me at the time said that it was most likely that he lied on the marriage certificate since he was born to a single mum.

(says his Father Robert is a Publican, on that 1860 Marriage. Residence for Both, Eyre Street)

Seems a bit confusing!...

Chris :)

Edits (the 1853 Briggs/Hollis Marriage, he was 26, Farmer, Father, John, occ. Farmer)

As you haven't found Elizabeth after 1841, can you say how you know exactly where she was born, please.

Suggestions - based purely on geography

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
Briggs Robert Shardlow 7b 489
Hollis Sarah Shardlow 7b 489


Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
Briggs Robert Newark 7b 399
PETTENER Eleanor Newark 7b 399