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As first names are not given, I wonder if Messrs Connor and Sommerville could be male infants ??
But can't find corresponding births in Stevenston.
ADDED:
The office employee who sent me the email will be going by a list of burials, and very possibly the list just gives the surnames Sommerville and Connor, with a tick or equivalent in a "male" column.
It would be interesting to know what's actually on the gravestone (if any).
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The Mr. Somerville wouldn't be Henry's father as his parents were John Forr(r)est and Janet Taylor. Presumably his mother remarried sometime after Henry's birth. That would explain why he married as Forrest but was maybe known by his stepfather's name.
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Further reply from helpful person at North Ayrshire Bereavement Services today, including image of document.
Mr Connor was 60.
"Mr Sommerville" is actually Mrs Sommerville, aged 72.
Agnes Murphy was aged 14 months - so not Henry and Janet's daughter, but presumably their grand-daughter.
Her birth:
MURPHY
AGNES
F
1933
615/ 129
Stevenston
And her death:
MURPHY
AGNES FORREST
1
1934
644/1 380
Bridgeton
The owner of the lair at the cemetery was Henry Sommerville, Ardeer Square.
He bought it in 1891, for £1.
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Wow thank you ever so, for that info.
Amazing you guys are soo helpful.
I am still waiting the death certificate for Robert Watt, I spoke to Durham Records they said to wait for death cert and then contact them. Although as someone has already said it might not tell me much
Thank you again
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Veering well away from the original query - but posting just for interest!
Mr Connor was apparently some relation by marriage of Henry's adopted sister Annie.
Not her husband, though, as he was still alive in 1901.
Henry Forest/Sommerville in 1871:
Henry Forest
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Henry Forest
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Janet Forest
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/10
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 62 Govan Street
Occupation: Seaman's Son <<<<<<<<<<
ED: 67
Household schedule number: 106
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_142
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Forest 32 - wife - Denny, Stirlingshire
Henry Forest 3
Agnes Taylor 70 - mother-in-law [of the absent seaman]
Anny Henderson 12 - adopted
and in 1881:
Henry Somerville
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Henry Somerville
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's name: John Somerville
Mother's name: Janet Somerville
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/12
Registration district: Gorbals
Civil Parish: Glasgow Gorbals
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 58 Hospital St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 68
Household schedule number: 6
Line: 19
Roll: cssct1881_248
Household Members:
Name Age
John Somerville 50
Janet Somerville 48 - Dennyloanhead, Stirling
Henry Somerville 13
Annie Mitchell 22 - adopted daughter
Janet Fleming 71 - wife's mother (mother-in-law) [????? maybe mistranscription ?]
and in 1891:
Henry Sommerville
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Henry Sommerville
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Janet Sommerville
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 615
Registration district: Stevenston
Civil Parish: Stevenston
Town: Stevenston
County: Ayrshire
Address: 66 Ardeer Square
Occupation: General Labourer
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 264
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1891_216
Household Members:
Name Age
Janet Sommerville 48
Agnes Taylor 81 - mother
Henry Sommerville 24
Annie Mitchell's marriage:
MITCHELL
ANNIE
CONNOR
WILLIAM
1882
644/11 166
Hutchesontown
Birth of a child:
Hendry Forrest Connor
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Hendry Forrest Connor
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1891
Birth Place: Hutchesontown, Lanark, Scotland
Father: William Connor
Mother: Annie Mitchell Connor
FHL Film Number: 255142
Reference ID: v 644-11 p 489
Annie Connor
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Annie Connor
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William Connor
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 286 So Wellington St
ED: 30
Household schedule number: 90
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_286
Household Members:
Name Age
William Connor 32 - tinsmith
Annie Connor 32
Janet Connor 7
John McDonald Connor 5
John McDonald Connor died in Govan 1942, son of William Connor, tinsmith deceased, and Annie Connor, ms Mitchell, deceased.
McDonald was William's mother Agnes's maiden name, and John was his father's name. His father disappears from the censuses after 1861.
William Connor
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: William Connor
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Agnes Connor
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, lanarks
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 490 Calder Street
Occupation: Tinsmith
ED: 92
Household schedule number: 21
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_312
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Connor 62
William Connor 42
Janet Connor 17
John Connor 15
Henry Connor 9
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I wonder if Mrs Sommerville, aged 72,who died in 1893 , could be Henry's mother ??
FORREST
JANE
72
1893
644/14 104
Kinning Park
EDIT:
No, that lady's also listed as Morrison, not Sommerville.
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Hi
Just had the death certificate back for a Robert Watt in Durham 1906
It says he died 12/01/1906 at workhouse infirmary
Occ= gen labourer of Framwellgate, Durham
Informant= George Richardson master of workhouse
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So we still don't know if that's the right Robert or not.
I still feel he is - but we'll never know for sure.
Thanks for letting us know the details.
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