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30 Oct 2019 17:50 |
John Gibbons born c.1842 in Kings Sutton, Northants. Son of Charles and Ann. Got him in 1851/61/81 without difficulty. Have his death and burial details plus grisly inquest details! BUT WHERE IS HE IN 1871, please? Thank you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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30 Oct 2019 18:04 |
Was he married
Where was he in 1881 .?
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ErikaH
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30 Oct 2019 18:05 |
Did he marry?
Where was he living in 1881?
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Nicola'S
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30 Oct 2019 18:14 |
Ooooooooooh, well he didn't ACTUALLY marry! He and his not wife shared the same surname of Gibbons and never married; neither did on of their daughters. But we know all this.
In 1871, the family are living at 13 Landseer Street, Battersea, London. His pob is given as Banbury, Oxon but it is DEFINITELY him.
Does this help?
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Kay????
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30 Oct 2019 18:43 |
Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: John Gibbons Age: 28 Estimated birth year: 1843 Gender: Male Where born: Daventry Northamptonshire England Civil Parish: Chester County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Registration district: Chester Sub-registration district: Chester Castle ED, institution, or vessel: Chester Castle Barracks Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 3724 Folio: 44 Page Number: 8 Household Membe
a soldier.?
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Nicola'S
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30 Oct 2019 18:45 |
Thank you, but nope! He was a Coachman/Groom all the way through to his death.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Oct 2019 18:51 |
for our reference:
John Gibbons in the 1881 England Census Name: John Gibbons Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Eliza E. Gibbons Gender: Male Where born: Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 13 Landseer St Marital status: Married Occupation: Coachman (Domestic Servant) Registration district: Wandsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 54 Neighbors: Piece: 649 Folio: 93 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age John Gibbons 39 Eliza E. Gibbons 37 Emily K. Gibbons 5 Eleanor Gibbons
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malyon
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30 Oct 2019 20:04 |
John Gibbons England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name: John Gibbons Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1882 Registration District: Lambeth County: London Event Place: Lambeth, London, England Age: 40 Birth Year (Estimated): 1842 Volume: 1D Page: 230 Affiliate Line Number: 162
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malyon
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30 Oct 2019 20:12 |
this could be eliza in 1891
Eleanor Gibbons England and Wales Census, 1891 Name: Eleanor Gibbons Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 County: London Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical Parish: ST LUKE REDCLIFFE SQUARE Registration District: Kensington Gender: Female Age: 13 Occupation: Scholar Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1878 Birthplace: London, England Page Number: 45 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 31/ 170 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Eliza Gibbons Head Female 47 London, England Emily K Gibbons Daughter Female 15 London, England Eleanor Gibbons Daughter Female 13 London, England Annie Gibbons Daughter Female 10 London, England
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Catherine
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30 Oct 2019 22:47 |
maybe he didn't marry Eliza because he was already married????
Name: John Gibbons Gender: Male Occupation: Groom Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1865 Marriage Place: St Paul, Bermondsey, Southwark, England Father: Charles Gibbons Occupation: Tailor Spouse: Lucy Stallard Register Type: Parish Register
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Nicola'S
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30 Oct 2019 22:59 |
Yes!! Thank you. Apologies for the delay getting back to this - a minor domestic emergency involving a cat intervened ……………… !! :-D
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ArgyllGran
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30 Oct 2019 23:37 |
I can't see Lucy and her father William (coach builder) in earlier censuses.
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malyon
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31 Oct 2019 12:38 |
Lucy Stallard England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Lucy Stallard Residence Place: Brighton, Sussex, England Gender: Female Christening Date: 26 Feb 1831 Christening Date (Original): 26 Feb 1831 Christening Place: St. Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England Father's Name: William Stallard Mother's Name: Mary Stallard
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ArgyllGran
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31 Oct 2019 14:51 |
That Lucy's father father died before appearing on censuses, so we don't know his occupation.
However, she doesn't seem to be on censuses after 1861, so the 1865 marriage may well be hers:
Lucy with siblings but no parents in 1841:
Lucy Stallard in the 1841 England Census Name: Lucy Stallard Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Gender: Female Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Brighthelmstone Hundred: Brighthelmstone County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter Neighbors: Piece: 1121 Book: 2 Folio: 12 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Jane Stallard 20 James Stallard 18 George Stallard 12 Lucy Stallard 9 Edward Stallard 8 Richard Mockford 75
With mother (widow) and brother in 1851:
Lucy Stallard in the 1851 England Census Name: Lucy Stallard Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Stallard Gender: Female Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England Civil Parish: Brighthelmstone Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: Household schedule number: 96 Piece: 1645 Folio: 87 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Mary Stallard 55 George Stallard 23 Lucy Stallard 19 Charllotte Langbrige 19 - visitor
Lucy Stallard in the 1861 England Census Name: Lucy Stallard Age: 29 Estimated birth year: 1832 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: N Civil Parish: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: Kemp Town ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 62 Piece: 592 Folio: 105 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age John Batchelor 57 Jane Batchelor 41 Lucy Stallard 29
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ArgyllGran
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31 Oct 2019 15:00 |
Possibly William's death:
William Stallard in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name: William Stallard Gender: Male Burial Date: 16 Jan 1834 Burial Place: Brighton, Sussex, England FHL Film Number: 1067132 Reference ID: pg179 ln1427
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ArgyllGran
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31 Oct 2019 15:11 |
Age a few years out ??
Lucy Gibbons in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Lucy Gibbons Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Brighton Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 159
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Maddie
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31 Oct 2019 15:24 |
could thi be the lucy from the marriage 1871 Name: Lucy Gibbons Age: 36 Estimated birth year: 1835 Gender: Female Where born: Brighton Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Household schedule number: 256 Piece: 641 Folio: 23 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Fredk Farmer 26 Emily Farmer 25 Emely Farmer 4 Calia Farmer 5/12 Lucy Gibbons 36 ---- marrried
Name: Lucy Stallard Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1865 Marriage Place: St Paul, Bermondsey, Southwark, England Father: William Stallard ---------- coach uilder Spouse: John Gibbons Register Type: Parish Register
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Nicola'S
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16 Oct 2020 22:40 |
I'm returning to this post on behalf of my cousin.
I've found Lucy's possible burial in a Common Grave in 1885 but she could also be the death above found by ArgyllGran.
But I cannot find her in the 1881 census which would be a big help. Can anyone see her, please? :-)
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ErikaH
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17 Oct 2020 12:42 |
What was the location of the burial in 1885? How old was the deceased?
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2020 13:06 |
The 1885 burial might be this death ??
Deaths Mar 1885 (>99%) Gibbins Lucy 50 Wandsworth 1d 390
If so, I think that's this woman:
Lucy Gibbins in the 1881 England Census Name: Lucy Gibbins Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Joseph Gibbins Gender: Female Where born: St George, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 6A Cavendish Grove Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration District: Lambeth Sub registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: Piece: 605 Folio: 149 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Gibbins 34 - House painter Lucy Gibbins 46 Lucy E. Gibbins 14 Alice Gibbins 9
By 1891, Joseph is with another partner, Elizabeth Tilley. Married 1888.
Surname is variously Gibbons, Gibbon, Gibbin, Gibbins, Gribbin
Lucye Gribbin in the 1871 England Census Name: Lucye Gribbin Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: 1839 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Marylebone Middlesex England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Registration District: Lambeth Sub-registration District: Lambeth Church First ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household Schedule Number: 415 Piece: 659 Folio: 28 Page Number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Gribbin 27 - clothiers assistant Lucye Gribbin 32 Lucy E Gribbin 4
Joseph's a house painter from 1871 census onwards - 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911. By 1911 he's married Elizabeth's sister (presumably) - Isabella Tilley. Married Dec qr 1907.
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