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Help needed please looking for the parents of Samuel Meneely and Jane Anderson Muir who married in Glasgow in 1924 thank you

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His surname is misspelt

Marriage
MUIR
JANE ANDERSON
MENCELY
SAMUEL
1924
562/ 59
Eastwood
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Her death

MENEELY
JANE ANDERSON
74
1965
645/1 532
Glasgow

A son?

MENEELY
SAMUEL
57
MUIR mmn
1985
603/ 717
Glasgow,

Could this be Samuel senior?

Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View
MENEELY
SAMUEL
56
1937
644/1 304
Shettleston
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Sooo

1891 census
Samuel Meneely
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Mary Meneely
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastwood, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 562
Registration district: Eastwood
Civil Parish: Eastwood
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Printfield Entry Lane
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 59
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_178
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Meneely 34
Mary Meneely 13
Samuel Meneely 10
Susan Meneely 3

Not seeing them on any earlier census other than on Scotland People that needs pay to view

The family at some point come over from ireland

According to the 1891 census posted above, Mary (senior) was born in Milton, Dunbartonshire, and all the children in Eastwood, Renfrewshire.

Samuel's birth.

6 credits on Scotlands People will let you see the certificate, which will tell you both parent's names and also place and date of their marriage;

MENEELY
SAMUEL
M
1880
562/ 183
Eastwood


Similarly, his marriage cert will tell you the names of both parents of Samuel and Jane.

You don't have to buy a copy - just spend 6 credits to view the original document.

Jane's death:

MENEELY (also listed as Muir)
JANE ANDERSON
74
1965
645/1 532
Glasgow

Her birth - another 6 credits will let you see her parents'' names, plus place and date of marriage:

MUIR
JANE ANDERSON
F
1891
562/ 129
Eastwood

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Jane Muir
in the 1891 Scotland Census
Name: Jane Muir
Age: 3 Weeks
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: Maxwell Muir
Mother's name: Margaret Muir
Gender: Female
Where born: Eastwood, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 562
Registration district: Eastwood
Civil Parish: Eastwood
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 3 New Row
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 112
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_178
Household Members:
Name Age
Maxwell Muir 40
Margaret Muir 37
Mary Muir 15
David Muir 10
George Muir 8
Jessie Muir 6
Maxwell Muir 4
Sophia Muir 2
Jane Muir 3 Weeks



Parents' marriage:

MUIR
MAXWELL
ANDERSON
MARGARET
1873
562/ 61
Eastwood

Probably Maxwell's birth:

MUIR
JOHN MAXWELL
Parents: ALEXANDER MARTIN/MUIR ELIZABETH BUCHANAN FR869 (FR869)
M
12/01/1853
562/
40 252
Eastwood


Maxwell Muir
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Maxwell Muir
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Polockatam (mistranscription of something - need credits to see image)
Registration Number: 638/1
Registration district: Larkhall
Civil Parish: Dalserf
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 67 Low Plemana
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1871_122
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Frame 26
Mary Frame 24
George Frame 3
Margaret Frame 1
Maxwell Muir 19


John M Muir
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: John M Muir
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relationship: Son
Father's name: Alexander Martin Muir
Mother's name: Elizabeth Muir
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastwood, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 562
Registration district: Eastwood
Civil Parish: Eastwood
Town: Pollockshaws
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 14 Buchanan Place Herriet Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 66
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1861_75
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Martin Muir 43 - Neilston
Elizabeth Muir 46 - Neilston
Janet M Muir 22
Alexander M Muir 20
William Muir 18
James Muir 15
Christina B Muir 11
Walter Muir 10
John M Muir 7
George W Muir 5
Robert Muir 1


Parents' marriage:

BUCHANAN
ELISABETH
ALEXANDER MUIR/FR1253 (FR1253)
10/06/1836
572/
50 158
Neilston

Probably Alexander's birth:

MUIR
ALEXANDER
ALEXANDER MUIR/JANET MCKINLAY FR560 (FR560)
M
21/09/1817
572/
20 416
Neilston

Another transcribed version of the surname - only the SP website will allow you to look at the original

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Printfield, Entry Lane, Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary McNeely Head Widow Female 34 1857 Washerwoman Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Mary McNeely Daughter - Female 13 1878 General Servant (Domestic) Renfrewshire, Scotland
Samuel McNeely Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Renfrewshire, Scotland
Susan McNeely Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Renfrewshire, Scotland

????
So, I'm looking at this for the 1881 census. Another surname spelling and Mary is Agnes - ? two first names and uses different ones?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Thornliebank, Eastwood, Renfrewshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samuel McNuty Head Married Male 32 1849 Printfield Labourer Ireland
Agnes McNuty Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Dumbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Mary McNuty Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Samuel McNuty Son - Male 0 1881 - Thornliebank, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Eliza McNuty Boarder Unmarried Female 26 1855 Cotton Weaver Ireland

Yes, I agree with that, GG.

Here they are in 1901 - Mary senior is again Agnes:

Mary McNeely
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Mary McNeely
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's name: Agnes McNeely
Gender: Female
Where born: Pollokshaws, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 562/2
Registration district: Eastwood Landward
Civil Parish: Eastwood
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Old Field Entry
Occupation: Printfield Worker
ED: 15
Household schedule number: 91
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_192
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes McNeely 46 - Milton, Dunbartonshire
Mary McNeely 23
Samuel McNeely 20
Susan McNeely 13

Samuel (senior) and Agnes (aka Mary) - marriage:

MENEILLY
SAMUEL
RAINEY
AGNES
1873
562/ 64
Eastwood

Agnes Rennie
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Agnes Rennie
[Agnes Love]
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: David Love
Mother's name: Christina Love
Gender: Female
Where born: Dumbarton, Dumbartonshire
Registration Number: 562
Registration district: Eastwood
Civil Parish: Eastwood
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 82 Thornliebank
Occupation: Clark Driver Printfield
ED: 14
Household schedule number: 192
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1871_96
Household Members:
Name Age
David Love 25
Christina Love 23
John Lawrie 32 - boarder
Agnes Rennie 15
Mary Rennie 11


As Agnes and sister Mary are listed after the boarder, I suspect that they are in a different household from the Loves and the boarder, and are not related to the Loves.


EDIT:
Yes, I had a look, and they are a different household. However, in spite of Agnes and Mary being a household on their own, they are both listed as "daughter".
Maybe because they are minors, and not able to be listed as "head" ???

The occupation of both is Cloth Drier Printfield.

There are certainly various spellings !!

1861 with more Irish connections

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Milson Loan, Old Kilpatrick, Old or West Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William J Rennie Head Married Male 31 1830 Railway Surface Man Ireland
Mary Rennie Wife Married Female 43 1818 - Ireland
John Brown Step Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Rivetter (Ship Yard) Ireland
Rodger Rennie Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Ireland
Agnes Rennie Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Milton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Mary Rennie Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Milton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland