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According to 1939 Register image, Margaret was born 9 October 1906, as I posted already.

The December date on FMP's version, as posted by Maddie, is wrong.

Not that it helps!

Witnesses both had the surname Gregg.Just initials in place of forenames.Look like F.Gregg & *. *. E. Gregg,very difficult to make out.
Surname of Margaret is almost definitely Herdman.

Stretching the 6 week period for registration, if the birth date is as per 1939

Margret Hardman
England and Wales Census, 1911

Name:
Margret Hardman
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1911
Event Place:
Glossop, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom
County:
Derbyshire
Parish:
Glossop
Sub-District:
Glossop
Sub-District Number:
1
District Number:
441
Enumeration District:
13
Registration District:
Glossop
Gender:
Female
Age:
5
Number in Family:
3
Birth Year (Estimated):
1906
Birthplace:
Tintwistle, Cheshire
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Schedule Type:
98
Page Number:
1
Registration Number:
RG14
Piece/Folio:
195
Affiliate Record Identifier:
GBC/1911/RG14/21278/0195/2
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Emily Hardman Head Female 30 Hollingworth, Cheshire
Margret Hardman Daughter Female 5 Tintwistle, Cheshire
Margaret Marriott Mother Female 74 Hadfield, Derbyshire

could this be margaret surname spelt hardman being born december 1906 but not reg. till 1907 1st quater

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
HARDMAN Margaret Barton I. 8c 653

Margaret Nelson
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain, England
Country
England
County
Durham
Year
1963
Birth Year
1906
Age
57
Event Quarter
4
District
Durham North Western

Who witnessed the marriage?

Perhaps Margaret was born in Scotland, or somewhere overseas?

1911 ???
11 Back South Street Felling on Tyne, Heworth, Durham, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John T Nelson Head Married Male 53 1858 Coal Mine Stone Man Newcastle Northumberland
Isabella Nelson Wife Married Female 48 1863 - Felling Shore Durham
Daniel Nelson Son Single Male 23 1888 Warehouseman Railway Felling Shore Durham
Robert Nelson Son Single Male 19 1892 Coal Mine Driver Felling Shore Durham
Fred Nelson Son - Male 11 1900 School Felling Shore Durham
Walter Nelson Son - Male 10 1901 School Felling Shore Durham
Annie Isabella Nelson Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Felling Shore Durham

Hi Maddie,I've got that image.Unfortunately,I can't find her birth anywhere?

1939
3B South Street, Felling U.D., Durham, England
Robert Nelson 29 Feb 1892 Male Coal Mine Deputy Underground Married 40 1
Margaret Nelson 09 Dec 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 40 2
Ref: RG101/2773K/004/27 Letter Code: FFNM

Got the marriage certificate this morning:-
Robert is aged 46,a widower (which I didn't know) He's a coal miner.He's living at 3,South Street,Felling with his new wife.His father is given as John Thomas Nelson,retired boiler fireman.
Margaret Herdman is aged 32,a spinster also living at 3,South Street,Felling.Her father is given as John Herdman,a road labourer.
The certificate hasn't been of much use (yet) as I still can't find any more info on Margarets birth or census info.
Any help much appreciated.

THANK YOU.

Possible death of Robert?? Assuming they continued living in the Gateshead area.

Felling is part of Gateshead.

Robert Nelson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Robert Nelson
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: abt 1892
Registration Date: Jul 1967
[Aug 1967]
[Sep 1967]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Gateshead
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 648

If you have any details of their deaths then it will give at least an age or after 1968/9 a year of birth,to compare with the 1939 findings.

Apologies,I thought,wrongly, the 1939 register was taken on March 31st.This could well be them?

FreeBMD has the 3 children born 1941, 42 and 43.

I think you need the marriage cert, for ages, Robert's occupation, and parents' names.

The 1939 register was compiled in September 1939.

They married before that.

Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
Herdman Margaret Nelson Durham N.E. 10a 1836
Nelson Robert Herdman Durham S.E. 10a 1836 [the GRO Index is wrong - should say Durham NE ]

The Margaret I posted was born 1906 (though I don't see her birth if she's Margaret Herdman - but DOBs are often wrong on 1939 register), and would only have been 33 in 1939 - quite young enough to have children in the early 1940's.

This can't be the correct one I'm afraid.They didn't marry until after the date for the 1939 register & would probably be too old to have had children in the 1940s? THANK YOU though.They would both be single on the 1939 register.

This is the only couple who don't have any children or closed records with them, and where the wife is of child-bearing age:

Robert Nelson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Robert Nelson
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Feb 1892
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3B South St.
Residence Place: Felling, Durham , England
Occupation: Coal Mine Deputy Underground
Schedule Number: 40
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: FFNM
Registration district: 556 A 2
Inferred Spouse: Margaret Nelson
Household Members:
Name
Robert Nelson
Margaret Nelson - 9 Oct 1906


The marriage cert would verify ages, and give parents' names for further research.