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Chris :)

23 April 1874 - Southern Reporter - Selkirk, Selkirkshire, Scotland

Marriage
Thomas M'Donald, quarryman, to Maria Haynes, daughter of the late Mr. Martin Haynes, labourer.


(looking round on later Census, things Overhaugh Street, seems to be a few McDonalds about, if they relate in family. Even into 1920's with a few 'fights' according to Newspapers, lol)

Thanks so much! I didn't know about the settings, so that's very kind to download them yourself. Great, so it looks like Thomas McDonald's wife's name was Margaret Judge? And Thomas was born in Kirkudbrightshire?

That's great to find out about the other siblings, Peter, Thomas, Neil and Arthur.

I haven't read through the whole thread, so apologies if already posted:

Thomas Mcdonald
in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: Thomas Mcdonald
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Mcdonald
Mother's name: Margaret Mcdonald
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 789
Registration district: Hawick
Civil Parish: Hawick
Town: Hawick
County: Roxburghshire
Address: 6 Mid Row
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 87
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1861_140
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mcdonald 50 - Paisley
Margaret Mcdonald 48 - Ireland
Peter Mcdonald 22 - Dumfriesshire (Wamphrey, per 1891 census)
Thomas Mcdonald 15
Neil Mcdonald 12 - England
Arthur Mcdonald 10 - Hawick

OK - 1871 census.

Places of birth:
William - Paisley, Renfrewshire.
Margaret - Ireland
Thomas - Creetown, Kirkcudbrightshire [but spelled Creeton on the image]
Arthur - Hawick, Roxburghshire.


Actually, all the places are given clearly on Ancestry, and probably also on FMP:

Thomas Mcdonald
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Thomas Mcdonald
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Mcdonald
Mother's name: Margaret Mcdonald
Where born: Creeton, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 789
Registration district: Hawick
Civil Parish: Hawick
Town: Hawick
County: Roxburghshire
Address: 6 Mid Row
Occupation: Ag Lab
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 75
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_179
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mcdonald 62 - Paisley, Renfrewshire
Margaret Mcdonald 61 - Ireland
Thomas Mcdonald 26 -
Arthur Mcdonald 19 - Hawick, Roxburghshire

Possible death of Martin ??

HYNES
MARTIN
64
mms GILL
1866
792/ 15
Jedburgh

I've used a few credits and had a look at the marriage cert. EDIT: But have just realised it was the census you wanted help with!.

17 April 1874 at the Catholic Chapel, Ladhope, after banns according to the forms of the Catholic church.

Thomas McDonald (signed), quarryman, bachelor, age 26.
Address: Overhaugh Street, Galashiels.
Parents: William McDonald, labourer, and Margaret McDonald, ms Judge.

Maria Haynes (signed), wool factory worker, age 28 [ though could be 23 ]
Address: Overhaugh Street, Galashiels.
Parents: Martin Haynes, labourer, deceased, and Mary Haynes, ms Cannon.

Witnesses: Michael M Lauchlan, and Catherine McGirl [?]

Hi Shauna
I've sent you a message, as the uploaded images have been set as private. You need to edit the settings to share so helpers can access them

Thanks for that.
The marriage certificate is from Scotland's People. The link is here:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/103323876

There is also the census from 1871 from Hawick, Scotland, with Thomas McDonald at home with this father William and siblings. It also has some places of birth on it that I am having difficulty reading. Any ideas?
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/103323878

You can upload the image to Keepsafe and share it, then if you post a link to it someone could take a look.

I have some more questions!
I have the marriage record of Thomas McDonald and Maria Haynes, Margaret's parents. It has on it her parents names and also the two maiden names, but I am having difficulty reading the handwriting. Is there a way to attach pictures of the certificate???

That's interesting. So Ancestry thinks that Haynes could be Hynes which could be the same as Einnes which could the same as Innes.

Presumably some of this being mistakes in transcribing records, and some because the same name was sometimes spelt multiple ways?

As it looks likely that we have found the right family, on the 1891 census Ancestry is suggesting this for Maria Hynes in 1861:

Mary Rynes
[Mary Hynes]
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: Martin Rynes
Mother's name: Mary Rynes
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 792
Registration district: Jedburgh
Civil Parish: Jedburgh
County: Roxburghshire
Address: 1 Bongate
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 59
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1861_140
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Rynes 58
Mary Rynes 40
Patrick Rynes 23
Budget Rynes 14
Mary Rynes 9
Margaret Rynes 5
Arthur McKanna 25

Only daughter Margaret born in Scotland, parents siblings born Ireland.

and this for 1871:

Maria Hynes
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Hynes
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 792/1
Registration district: Jedburgh Burgh
Civil Parish: Jedburgh
County: Roxburghshire
Address: 10 Abbey Close
Occupation: Domestic Son
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1871_179
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Hynes 52
Maria Hynes 21
Margaret Hynes 14
John Littlewood 66
Peter Whitte 49
Michael Maginness 60

Don't know if this is correct though, ancestry often suggest other records which are not right.

Fantastic. I have ordered the death certificate, so I can be certain about dates, but all the other information matches up with what we know!

That's very interesting that their border was in a domestic violence incident. I can' t believe how much information is available. I had had a few attempts to track Margaret but always thought it would be too difficult as its such a common name. On behalf of our family, thanks very much for all the help!

I've gone back to my earlier post on the birth for Margaret - I didn't look at my notes properly and used the wrong dates. The birth registration confirms Chris's baptism giving dob.

Going back to Census below, posted earlier, I wondered if that Einnes was Hynes!, looking at Baptism Record, Margaret, 1878 (Scotland Roman Catholic, FMP) Sponsors, Michael Sharky, Margaret Hynes. They have Birthdate as 9th July 1878 and Baptism 14th July 1878. Parents Thomas Macdonald and Maria Hynes.

Chris :)

1881( FMP)
Thomas McDonald Head Married Male 33 1848 Contractor (Roads) Dalry, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Maria McDonald Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Mary McDonald Daughter - Female 6 1875 Scholar Wilton, Roxburghshire, Scotland
William McDonald Son - Male 4 1877 - Galashiels, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Margaret McDonald Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Wilton, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Annie Donald Boarder Unmarried Female 29 1852 Woollen Power Loom Weaver Midlothian, Scotland
Elizabeth Einnes Boarder Unmarried Female 25 1856 Woollen Cloth Finisher Selkirk, Roxburghshire, Scotland
Glebe Mill Cottages, Wilton, Roxburghshire, Scotland


Edits (probably her below, assaulted by her Husband Kyren Hynes, Millworker, residing at Wilton Dean, Hawick)

05 September 1891 - Jedburgh Gazette - Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland

JEDBURGH SHERIFF COURT
... assaulted Elisabeth Hynes or Innes...

(their Marriage 1880 FMP Scotland Roman Catholic. Kyran Ennis, his Father, Joannis Ennis, Selkirk, her Surname, Crines)

(possible Brother of Maria perhaps?, a surname for variants!)

1891
Kyron Innes Head Married Male 42 1849 General Labourer Ireland
Elizabeth Innes Wife Married Female 34 1857
Wilton Dean, Wilton, Roxburghshire, Scotland

This looks like the death for James wife

Deaths Dec 1938
MURRAY Mary A 35 Middlesbro' 9d 586

So still there in 1938

Fantastic, thanks so much.
That marriage between James Murray and Mary Ann Burt was the first marriage of my grandfather James, before he married my grandmother Dolly ~1941 or so (Mary Ann, called Molly, died of TB around about 1938). The little girl Alice who was with Margaret and family in 1939 was my aunt.

Great that you found her death record - I will send for the certificate.
Can't thank you enough for all this, :-D, Shauna

This looks like her

Deaths Jun 1961
MURRAY Margaret 82 Surrey N.W. 5g 642

Right reg district for weybridge

Here she is in 1939
Murray 09 Jul 1878 Female Housewife Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 269 1
Frank Murray 01 Apr 1900 Male Mercantile Marine - Greaser Married 269 2
John T Murray 24 Mar 1908 Male Aircraft Fitter Assembler Single 269 3
Roderick Hesketh 15 Oct 1915 Male Aircraft Fitter Assembler Single 269 4
Alice Murray 05 Nov 1932 Female At School Single 269 5
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Ref: RG101/1925A/023/40 Letter Code: DMVA
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63 Monument Road, Walton and Weybridge U.D., Surrey, England

So was living in weybridge

Aliice birth
Births Dec 1932
Murray Alice M Burt Middlesbro' 9d 781

?
Marriages Jun 1932
Burt Mary A Murray Newcastle T. 10b 225
Murray James Burt Newcastle T. 10b 225

Ok. I just checked in with my father, who confirmed some extra information that I didn't have.

He thinks this is definitely the right family, because he knew that her mother's name was Maria, and that she had a sister called Florence. Also he confirmed that she did have family living somewhere in the Newcastle area, so the parents later moving from Scotland to Durham would seem to be true.

He believes she died in Weybridge, Surrey around 1960, instead of 1958.

Thanks for all that digging, you've really helped ! :-D