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Sylann
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8 Sep 2019 16:46 |
The number of ancestors emigrating I have a family the Arthur Family
Martin Arthur 1869 Scotland 1938 Australia wife Ann E Thomson 1882-1965 they had several children I've got that the ones upto 1911 were born in Midlothian Scotland , I think they had a son in 1914 Australia Robert Moore Arthur
So possibly emigrated between 1911-1914 as yet not found when they did emigrate If possible I'd like to fill in the gaps I know 4 of the 5 children married but I don't know when or where
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 16:56 |
I'm not seeing their marriage in Scotland/England/Wales.
Is this the family in 1901 ??? though the YOB's don't match what you say:
Martin Arthur in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: Martin Arthur Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 685/2 Registration district: St Andrew Civil Parish: Edinburgh St James County: Midlothian Address: 5 No St James St 1st Floor Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer ED: 52 Household schedule number: 74 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1901_373 Household Members: Name Age Martin Arthur 30 Anne Arthur 46 Martin Arthur 5
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KathleenBell
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8 Sep 2019 17:01 |
That Arthur is single and the Anne with him is his widowed sister.
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:02 |
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Robert Moore Arthur in the Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945 Name: Robert Moore Arthur Birth Date: 6 May 1914 Birth Place: Edinborough Scotland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Year Range: 1939 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Hobart Tasmania Service Number: TX2761 Next of Kin: Mavis Arthur Series Description: B883: Army, 2nd Al F
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:04 |
EDIT - NO, not this one - see post at 17:39 - YOB c1921:
Robert Moore Arthur in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963 Name: Robert Moore Arthur Departure Place: United Kingdom Arrival Date: 1 Sep 1953 Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia Vessel: Strathmore
Travelling with Olive Moore Arthur. Going to: Freemasons Hotel, New Norfolk, Tasmania
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:06 |
Just posting random things as I find them - no idea if they're for your Robert or not:
Carmel Lee Arthur in the Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988 Name: Carmel Lee Arthur Death Registration Year: 1963 Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia Father: Robert Moore Arthur <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mother Maiden Name: Bishop Reference Number: 8191
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KathleenBell
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8 Sep 2019 17:08 |
Robert's marriage? :-
Victoria Marriages 1836-1942
First name(s) Robert Moore Last name Arthur Sex Male Marriage year 1938 Spouse's first name(s) Mavis Merlin Spouse's last name Bishop State Victoria Country Australia Record set Victoria Marriages 1836-1942 Registration number 3969 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Australasia
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:12 |
What were the names of Martin and Ann's children, please?
Can you post a census you've found them on? I'm not seeing them in Scotland at all. Where in Scotland was Martin born?
ADDED: This is the only Martin Arthur birth in Scotland 1868-70:
ARTHUR MARTIN M 1868 644/4 31 Calton (Glasgow)
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Sylann
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8 Sep 2019 17:15 |
they married 1901 I think it was Edinburgh I've got the marriage of another tree and it isn't very good, Robert Moore Arthur I've got he married a Mavis so that sounds right Just noticed the other answer it looks as though they had a family
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:16 |
Ancestry seems to think this is that Martin in 1871:
Martin Arthur in the 1871 Scotland Census Name: Martin Arthur Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relationship: Son Father's name: Martin Arthur Mother's name: Jane Arthur Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 648 Registration district: Lanark Civil Parish: Lanark County: Lanarkshire Address: Castlegate ED: 1 Household schedule number: 49 Line: 24 Roll: CSSCT1871_146 Household Members: Name Age Martin Arthur 23 Jane Arthur 24 Martin Arthur 3
Martin Arthur in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Martin Arthur Gender: Male Birth Date: 19 Dec 1867 Birth Place: Calton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland Father: Martin Arthur Mother: Jane Wilson FHL Film Number: 6035516
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:19 |
Martin Arthur in the Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988 Name: Martin Arthur Death Registration Year: 1938 Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia Father: Martin Arthur Mother Maiden Name: Wilson Reference Number: 7010
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:21 |
Oh yes, I see the marriage now.
ARTHUR MARTIN THOMSON ANNIE ENGLISH 1901 685/3 235 Canongate
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Sylann
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8 Sep 2019 17:23 |
Children James T Arthur 1904 Fife 1965 Australia Annie T " 1906 Midlothian 1988 Australia Martin 1908 Midlothian Janet T 1911 Midlothian Robert Moore 1914
Not got a census with them on
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KathleenBell
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8 Sep 2019 17:26 |
Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918
First name(s) Martin Last name Arthur Birth year 1867 Birth date 19 Dec 1867 Service number S/16020 Rank Private Year 1914-18 Death year 1938 Death date 09 Aug 1938 Corps Gordon Highlanders Service British Army Stories - Links Martin: Medal Index Card Image descriptions Martin Arthur with his wife Ann English Thompson. Source View the Source record User facts Father : Martin Arthur Mother : Jane Arthur ms Wilson Education : Martin spent time on the TS Mars , a training ship for boys "at risk". He would have completed his schooling and been taught useful skills which would enable him to work for a living. Fife United Kingdom The Mars Nature of Death : War Related Sickness Died of pulmonary tuberculosis. Place of Birth : United Kingdom Glasgow Served as Surname : Arthur Served as First names : Martin Place of Death : Australia Victoria Country Great Britain Record set Lives Of The First World War 1914-1918 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory First World War Collections from Great Britain, UK None copyright Findmypast 2019
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Sep 2019 17:27 |
Not seeing them on any census
How sure are you of the names and birth years
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:30 |
Martin Arthur in the 1881 Scotland Census Name: Martin Arthur Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 431 Registration district: Forgan Civil Parish: Forgan County: Fife Address: In The River Fay Near The Fife Shore Opposite Dundee ED: Mars Industrial Training Ship <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Line: 4 Roll: cssct1881_120
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:34 |
Robert Moore was born in Edinburgh, not Australia, as already stated in his WW2 Service Record posted above.
His birth:
ARTHUR ROBERT MOORE M 1914 685/4 576 St Giles
Are you sure he is the son of Martin and Ann(ie) ?
If he is, they didn't emigrate until 1914 at earliest.
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2019 17:39 |
The Robert Moore who travelled to Tasmania with Olive in 1953 - which I posted earlier, isn't the Robert born in Edinburgh - unless the YOB is wrong on this travel record:
Robert Moore Arthur in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Robert Moore Arthur Gender: Male Age: 32 Birth Date: abt 1921 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Departure Date: 6 Aug 1953 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia Ship Name: Strathmore Shipping Line: P and O Official Number: 164521 Master: C F Halliday
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Sep 2019 17:40 |
A tree on ancestry has this
Annie English Thomson 1882–1965 BIRTH 02 MAY 1882 • Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland DEATH 30 JUN 1965 • Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Martin Arthur 1869–1938 BIRTH 19 DEC 1869 • Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland DEATH 09 AUG 1938 • Caulfield, Victoria, Australia
Children
James Thomson Arthur 1904–1965 BIRTH 1904 • Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland DEATH 20 OCT 1965 • Heidelberg, Victoria, Australia Spouse
Lillian May Waters 1907–1992 BIRTH ABT. 1907 DEATH 14 DEC 1992 • Victoria, Australia
Annie Thomson Arthur 1906–1988 BIRTH 29 JUL 1906 • Newington, Midlothian, Scotland DEATH 30 JUN 1988 • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Spouse
Robert William Hillhouse 1906–1965 BIRTH 12 APR 1906 • Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa DEATH 22 JUN 1965 • Blackburn, Victoria, Australia
Martin Arthur 1909–1985 BIRTH 1909 • Newington, Midlothian, Scotland DEATH 1985 • Kew, Victoria, Australia
Janet Thomson Arthur 1911– BIRTH 21 MAY 1911 • Edinburgh St Giles, Midlothian, Scotland DEATH Unknown Private info
Detail Marriage record of Hannaford, Fredk Jas [Frederick James] and Janet Thompson [Thomson] Arthur, married 1937, Births, Deaths & Marriages Victoria, No. 15324, search result accessed 13 June 2018 Source Information Title Victoria, Australia, Births, Deaths, Marriages Victoria, Marriages Note Victoria, Australia. Births, Deaths, Marriages Victoria. Marriages. Repository Information Name BDM Victoria Email https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
Robert Moore Arthur 1914– BIRTH 1914 • Edinburgh St Giles, Midlothian, Scotland DEATH Unknown
Spouse private info
Detail Marriage record of Arthur, Robert Moore and Mavis Merlin Bishop, married 1938, Births, Deaths & Marriages Victoria, No. 3969, search result accessed 13 June 2018 Source Information Title Victoria, Australia, Births, Deaths, Marriages Victoria, Marriages Note Victoria, Australia. Births, Deaths, Marriages Victoria. Marriages. Repository Information Name BDM Victoria Email https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
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Maddie
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8 Sep 2019 17:45 |
in the Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988
Name: James Thomson Arthur Death Registration Year: 1965 Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia Father: Martin Arthur Mother Maiden Name: Thomson Reference Number: 23561
Name: James Thomson Arthur Birth Date: 4 Oct 1907 Birth Place: Dunfermilne Scotland Year Range: 1939 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Melbourne Victoria Service Number: VX1301 Spouse: Lillian Arthur Series Description: B883: Army, 2nd Al F
Name: Annie Thomson Arthur [Annie Thomson Arth] Gender: Female Marriage Registration Year: 1932 Marriage Registration Place: Victoria, Australia Spouse: Robert Wm Hillhouse Reference Number: 3097
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