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Choccy
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22 Aug 2019 20:52 |
Sorry Dea, I missed your posting for some reason. Obviously not the right one :-(
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Dea
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22 Aug 2019 20:39 |
But the image of the burial register is on Ancestry Choccy and gives the address of the deceased - I have followed this through quite easily and have put all the details above - This 'proves' that it is certainly not the one we are looking for.
Dea x
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Choccy
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22 Aug 2019 19:39 |
The owner of the Ancestry tree is related to James William Hewitt;s sister Mabel Annie, but purchasing the death certificate might {or might not} confirm.
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22 Aug 2019 18:52 |
I think the sentence he received was '1 year I H L' which I believe would be 'Imprisonment with Hard Labour' .
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22 Aug 2019 18:31 |
Unfortunately, as we know well, it is not a sensible idea to believe everything which is 'suggested' or included in trees on Ancestry. - Everything should always be followed through and checked properly before accepting it as 'true'.
Dea x
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2019 15:24 |
Re the 1941 death - that's what Ancestry suggests is your James's death, and presumably the tree owner has assumed that meant it was the right one.
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ArgyllGran
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22 Aug 2019 15:11 |
The army record posted by Choccy seems to be the correct one:
James William Hewitt in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: James William Hewitt Gender: Male Birth Place: Croydon, Surrey, England <<<<<<<<<< Enlistment Age: 22 Regimental Number: 1954 Regiment Name: Battn Re?? Number of Images: 20 Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier James William Hewitt Self (Head)
Address: 4 Clairville Gardens, Hanwell. Occupation: Conductor. Employer: LUET (?)
Wounded by shrapnel 1915.
On 30/09/1917 he was disciplined for "Conduct to the prejudice of good order and military discipline, in that he on the Zillebeke-Shrapnel Corner Rd. . . broke from the ranks when the enemy were shelling the vicinity, and when ordered to return failed to do so." His sentence (can't make out what that was) was suspended in Feb 1918, and remitted in July 1918.
Father: James Hewitt, 221 Kingston Road, New Maldon, Surrey.
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22 Aug 2019 15:06 |
I wouldn't be at all surprised AG - he doesn't appear to be entirely 'mentally stable' in his behaviour so far ??
I had been considering this one as his occupation seems to fit but his dob is way out (although at one stage in his army records he seems to have changed from 1892 to 1889 )??
James W Hewitt's life in 1939 Layton Cottage, Wantage R.D., Berkshire, England
(8 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Lily A Bingham 30 Sep 1903 Female House Hold Duties Married 32 1 The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this? Tony Hall 29 Nov 1924 Male At School Single 32 3 The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this? The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this? James W Hewitt 06 Oct 1895 Male Engine Driver Mate A M W D Single 32 6 ???????????? Joseph Harty 10 Sep 1885 Male Stable Man Single 32 7 Arthur E Walker 25 Aug 1887 Male Air Service Clerk Married 32 8
I am really not sure though that this is the correct one............
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22 Aug 2019 14:51 |
???? No place of birth shown.
I've no particular reason to think this is the correct James - just throwing it in as a possibility.
James Hewett in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: James Hewett Gender: Male Marital status: Single Birth Date: 1892 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Netherne Mental Hospital.Netherne Residence Place: Coulsdon and Purley, Surrey , England Occupation: Incapacitated Schedule Number: 3 Sub Schedule Number: 128 OVSPI: Patient Enumeration District: DMDB Registration district: 31/3
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22 Aug 2019 08:39 |
I believe this one is the correct one?
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 8, Artillery Road, Guildford, Stoke Within, Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Hewitt Head Married Male 34 1867 Life Assurance Superintendent Denham, Buckinghamshire, England Annie J E Hewitt Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Croydon, Surrey, England James W Hewitt Son Single Male 9 1892 - Croydon, Surrey, England Mabel A Hewitt Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Guildford, Surrey, England James W Hewitt's Census Details
HEWITT, JAMES WILLIAM JEFFERY GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 228
??? - he is not with his family in 1911 but his father is now a Brewers Manager which would fit with the occupation of 'Off licence' on the son's marriage.....
1911 England Census Name: James Hewett Age in 1911: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Denham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: New Malden Search Photos: Search for 'New Malden' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 221 Kingston Road, New Malden, Surrey Marital status: Married Occupation: Brewers Manager **** Registration district: Kingston Registration District Number: 40 Sub-registration district: Kingston ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Household schedule number: 310 Piece: 3527 Household Members: Name Age James Hewett 44 Annie Hewett 40
Parents' marriage: Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%) Hewitt James Croydon 2a 316 Scan available - click to view Jeffery Annie Jane E Croydon 2a 316 Scan available - click to view
I haven't found him as yet on 1911................
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Dea
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22 Aug 2019 08:20 |
This death mentioned in posts above is NOT the correct one....... Name: William James Hewitt Age: 48 Birth Date: abt 1893 Death Date: abt 1941 Burial Date: 21 Aug 1941 Burial Place: Waltham Forest, Greater London, England Cemetery: Chingford Mount Cemetery Cemetery Section: G13 Grave Number: C/R 38683 Interment Number: C/R 38909
His address on the register was 6 Comboss Rd., Bow........
William J Hewett's life in 1939 6 Comboss Road, Poplar, London, England
(4 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number William J Hewett 04 Aug 1893 Male Wharf Labourer Heavy Worker Married 49 1 Susane (Susannah) Hewett 14 Apr 1900 Female Hoffman Presser Mantles Married 49 2 The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this? The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
Marriages Dec 1920 Hewitt William J Watson Poplar 1c 1057 Watson Susannah E Hewitt Poplar 1c 1057
Probable birth? HEWITT, WILLIAM JAMES CANNON GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 126
His parents marriage: Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%) CANNON Elizabeth Bethnal Green 1c 612 Hewett Edward James Bethnal Green 1c 612
Baptisn shows birthdate matches 1939 register: Name: William James Hewitt Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1893 Baptism Place: Haggerston All Saints, Hackney, England Father: Edward James Hewitt Mother: Elizabeth Hewitt Register Type: Parish Registers Born 4th August !!!
SO, the death in 1941 is NOT the man you are looking for!
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Dea
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20 Aug 2019 22:04 |
Another article of interest - this time regarding a Maintenance Order
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/100052466
Again from: Ealing Gazette and West Middlesex Observer - London - (04 June 1921 )
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Dea
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20 Aug 2019 21:48 |
You might want to read this article which seems to be about 'your' Mr. Hewitt:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/100051908
He is being proscecuted by the Canine Defence League........................
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ArgyllGran
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20 Aug 2019 21:23 |
None of us are related to you, John.
We're just people who enjoy the detective work of researching other people's family trees!
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John
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20 Aug 2019 20:33 |
Wow, thank you so much for your help everyone. All I have had to go on before now was my fathers birth certificate that had Hewitt as the father. This I never knew until my mother gave me the certificate. Learning that Fred Edwards was not my true grandfather came as a shock. For some time I could not come to terms with this knowledge. I tried unsuccessfully a few years ago to learn what you good people have found out.
It seems that the stories surrounding Hewitt were the stuff of fiction and led me on wild goose chase.
I need to go through the information you have provided. Are any of you related to Hewitt?
Thank you
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Choccy
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19 Aug 2019 07:48 |
possibly - (based on the family tree I found on Ancestry)
England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016
Name: William James Hewitt
Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1893
Death Date: abt 1941
Burial Date: 21 Aug 1941
Burial Place: Waltham Forest, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Chingford Mount Cemetery
Cemetery Section: G13
Grave Number: C/R 38683
Interment Number: C/R 38909
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Choccy
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19 Aug 2019 07:43 |
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: James William Hewitt
Gender: Male
Document Year: 1919
Residence Place: 2 Clanville Gardens, Hanwell
Regimental Number: 2954
Regiment Name: Batt Res Midd Regt
Number of Images: 14
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
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Choccy
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19 Aug 2019 07:39 |
Although very soon after first marriage, this could be possible -
Marriages Dec 1921
EDWARDS Frederick Whiley Brentford 3a 431 Whiley Vera Edwards Brentford 3a 431
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Vera Amelia Henrietta Edwards [Vera Edwards ]
Death Date: 8 Jan 1965 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 26 Feb 1965 Probate Registry: London, England
of 28 Croyde Avenue, Greenford, Middx Administration (with Will) to Raymond Henry James Edwards (Electrician)
(Raymond Henry James Hewitt was the child of the first marriage)
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Choccy
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18 Aug 2019 20:22 |
A tree on Ancestry has him dying as follows -
James William Hewitt died on 15 August 1941 when he was 49 years old.
15 Aug 1941 • Bow and Bromley, Poplar, London, England
(presumably this one - Hewitt William J 48 Poplar 1c 242 )
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ErikaH
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18 Aug 2019 18:06 |
You say you can’t find what happened to James, which implies that you do know about his wife and son.
Please tell us ALL you know
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