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Chris Ho, many thanks for finding this, never imagined the comings and goings of ships would be reported in this kind of detail.

Rambling, thanks for pointing me to the Shipping & Merchantile Gazette, will have a poke around.

"Blythville" certainly got around.

Baltimore in April 1881, as per Chris's post above, and from Spain to Pennsylvania in 1882:

https://www.immigrantships.net/v18/1800v18/blythville18820120.html

Wrecked 1908 off the west coast of Scotland:

https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?63480

1881 Census taken 2nd April...

Chris :)

01 April 1881 - Shields Daily Gazette - South Shields, Durham, England

Blythville (s), Simmons, of Hartlepool, arrived at Baltimore on Wednesday.


11 July 1881 - Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough - Middlesbrough, Yorkshire

Shipping
West Hartlepool.
Zealous, Powell left Constantinople for Sulina on Sunday


16 November 1886 - Northern Echo - Darlington, Durham, England

Shipping.
Middlesbrough. Arrivals & Sailings - Local Ports.
W. Hartlepool.
Acaster, Spink, from Dieppe.


https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11711915

http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha?shipsearch=blythville&SearchType=Exact&submit=search

http://www.teesbuiltships.co.uk/view.php?a1PageSize=&a1Order=Sorter_name&a1Dir=DESC&a1Page=2&ref=165890&vessel=ZEALOUS

http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/vesselsalpha?shipsearch=acaster&SearchType=Exact&submit=search


08 June 1855 - Lincolnshire Chronicle - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

Marriage
At Boston, on the 3rd inst., Clark Thomas Haylock mariner, of Church-street, to Hephzibah Clark, of Boston West.


Edits (also on Deaths at Sea image (FMP) Place of Death, Dieppe Hospital. In Port. Taken to Hospital 5/11/86)


Cemetery Registers Hartlepool 1907 Hephzibah Haylock abt 1835 Studley Road

https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php

Julia check out the "Shipping and Mercantile Gazette - London, " in newspaper
archives

Well I'm glad I looked at Hartlepool ships! Up popped a news article on the death of a relative :-)

Thanks Rambling, worth a try, not sure how much info the papers tended to publish about shipping at that time.

If it's not already been suggested have you looked at newspapers to see where the previous ship he was on would have been on census night 1881?

Previous vessel Blythville
Previous vessel year 1881

I would beg to differ on that ErikaH. I have several instances where I have found people who didn't appear in results, by manually scanning census schedules and finding them horribly mis-transcribed. That is only a viable option if you have a pretty good idea where someone should have been and it's a modest sized location. I also had a case only yesterday where the transcription missed a person out that was on the page.

If the name doesn’t show in the results, there isn’t a transcribed record

I had to pop out, thinking about the seamen on census issue, I think it's unlikely that anyone except a local fisherman or the like would be on a ship/boat in their home port, unless they had just arrived in port or were preparing to leave. They'd be at home with their family. It therefore follows that they would be out at sea, or in port somewhere else. Does anyone have any ideas how to go about what, on the face of it, seems like a needle in a haystack job?

(Not answering your question.)

On FS, there's this - though not helpful:


Name: Thos Haylock
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1853-1857
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Lincolnshire
Birth Year: 1831

GS Film number: 1562571
Digital Folder Number: 004650195
Citing this Record
"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941," database, FamilySearch

Alviegal , thanks, I had seen this, but it does seem a bit vague. I'm not sure for 1861 what it meant by "the end of the regular census". The 1871-1891 note does at least make reference to the link to the ordinary census at the port she ship was docked at, if was, or returned to. However, apart from the "home port" for a mariner, who know where else to look?

Thanks for the info about the Acaster Maddie.

From http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKMerchantNavyIndex.html. Maybe worth looking at.



TRACING SEAMEN ON BRITISH CENSUSES 1841 -1891





A population census was taken every ten years in Great Britain including data on merchant seamen. The records for 1841 - 1891 are available on public access at the Family Record Centre for access details see the PRO website at http://www.pro.gov.uk

1841 Seamen on shore on census night were enumerated in the same way as the general public, in the place where they spent that night. There was no provision made for recording seamen at sea on census night.

1851 Seamen on board ships in port or docked on rivers were recorded for the first time. They were enumerated by the Master and collected by the local Officer of Customs whose duty it was to submit the records. The RGSS had similar responsibility for the enumeration of ships at sea within territorial waters. Survival rate for these records is poor. The records
may be located following the normal census records for the port at which the ship was docked or the port to which it returned at the end of its voyage.

1861 Seamen on board all ships in port or docked in rivers were recorded and returns submitted to the Officer of Customs. The RGSS assumed responsibility for those at sea in territorial waters and for the first time, those 'on the high seas.' These records are filed in a separate schedule and found at the end of the regular census. The records have been indexed and alphabetical indexes are available on microfilm to both ships and seamen. These are available in many archives world wide and also through LDS libraries.

1871 - 1891 Returns filed as above, following the ordinary census records for the port at which the ship was docked on census night, or to which it returned following its voyage.

The census of 1881 requires special mention. The returns were filed as above, but in addition there is a separate index of all names in the 1881 census which includes all named mariners, along with an index of vessel names available on microfiche. The Royal Navy was separately enumerated and are similarly indexed but on separate fiche.

Note that the complete 1881 census has been placed on CD by the LDS and is available both for purchase and at their Family History Centres. Many archives worldwide also have copies.

1881 for Hephzibah in which she is married. 1891 above has her as widowed.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

13, Studley Road, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

Hapsabey Haylock Wife Head Married Female 46 1835 Tailoress Boston, Lincolnshire, England
John T Haylock Son Married Male 24 1857 Engineer (Artiz) West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Isabella Haylock Daughter Married Female 26 1855 - Durham, England
Mary J Haylock Daughter Single Female 5 1876 - West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Hapsabey Haylock Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - West Hartlepool, Durham, England
John Harrison Lodger Married Male 52 1829 Railway Engine Driver Durham, England

I appreciate that, but my understanding is that in this period, second part of the 19th century, census data was taken for merchant seaman, even those in international waters on census night. My guess would be that some ships missed submitting data, but I would hope to find data in at least some census years.

it was the name of the ship

Acaster
Names and owners
Year

Name

Owner
1882 Acaster Perry, Raimes & Co.
1883 Acaster W. E. Bagshaw
1884 Acaster Wood & Co.
1889 Acaster Robert Livingston
1891 Acaster Livingston, Conner & Co.
1896 Jeanne d’Arc AS Ganger Rolf
1908 Jeanne d’Arc AS Kerguelen
1912 Granli AS PO Haavik
1913 P.O. Haavik Anders Smith

Fate

While loading salt at Ibiza, Spain the P.O. Haavik grounded & was totally wrecked on 22 February 1914.

Related items :
note
Acaster - a general history

venue
Conner & Co.

venue
Perry & Co.

venue
Wood & Co.

By definition, a census is a return which records the names etc of people at a given address on a specific night (as per your thread on chat) so anyone not there should not be recorded

Maddie, thanks for the possible death reg, I hadn't come across it. Anyone know where Acaster is/was, I've come up blank on a google search?

possible ddeath

Registers Of Deaths At Sea
Archive reference BT 159/5
War -
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
First name(s) Thos
Last name Haylock
Death year 1886
Birth year 1830
Type At Sea
Occupation Cook
County -
Country At Sea
Place -
Death place Acaster
Document type Deaths
Page 96
Age 56
Death date 08 Nov 1886
Burial year -
Residence W Hartlepool
Records year range 1886-1888

died of paralysis

Thos
Last name Haylock
Age 25
Birth year 1831
Birth date ? ? 1831
Birth place Boston
Birth county/country Lincolnshire
Archive
The National Archives
Series BT116
Piece number 43
Date range 1853-1857
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857
Category Education & work