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Yes R. Rose, in contact all the time with them over in America, thanks to FB. The wonders of the modern times, can be a bind at times but also a blessing.

I wondered if there was a divorce, hence why unable to find a marriage under her name of Walter or even her maiden name of Gorvan if it came to that.. Her son doubted if she had married this Vic Carter, considering she left him at a young age and her husband also cleared off, he didn’t know too much about his parents.

hi
if jeffrey samuel walter did not die until 1985

ethel florence was not free to marry vic carter

unless they got a divorce

Sorry to hear about your heart attacks. Yes you did tell me there was no DNA match after all but it's good that family are happy to keep you as family and vice versa:-)

Yes it was R Rose, did I let you know that when I went over to America to stay with the family, over 4rs ago now, ( had 2 heart attacks since then, but hey OK now, it came as a shock after doing a DNA that she was no relative at all to me, but they still want me to be their family, well their mother was taken in by my grandfather so was brought up in my dads house. Such a sad story, , their mother was given to my grandad in the market, very much loved by my family though, so grateful even now with the help you gave me

It was the Mary Moore search wasn't it :-)

Hi Rambling ! it’s Brenda. . must say a pleasure to hear from you, a few years ago you helped me solve a difficult family, but we mastered it.

Hi Rambling Rose, I found a birth for the daughter of Jeffrey and Ethel Walter , took a while she was born in 1935 Gravesend but under the mothers name as Gowan .and not .Gorvan. I will look at the Darford births, that being the registration area for Gravesend.

No marriage as far as I can see,

John who was the daughter she took with her please?

Many thanks, obviously my birth for her out by 2 yrs. and she did died under the name of Carter. Is it possible to find a marriage at all please, all I have to go on is a Vic Carter

Record Transcription:
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007


Jeffrey Samuel Walter

Record: Civil Births Record

Location: Kent, England

Year of birth: 1908
First name(s) JEFFREY SAMUEL
Last name WALTER
Gender Male
Birth day 1
Birth month 12
Birth year 1908
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1985
District Hastings & Rother
Register number 185
County Sussex
Volume 18
Page 1262
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Just reading the OP again , if she took her daughter with her is the whereabouts of the daughter known? Not seeing a birth?

If Ethel Florence put her maiden name also as Carter, there are a number of births in Dartford area between 1939 and 1950s, male and female.

Just a possible as death is same district

First name(s) VICTOR FRANCIS
Last name CARTER
Gender Male
Birth day 8
Birth month 10
Birth year 1920
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1994
District Gravesend
District number 5621B
Register number T13B
Entry number 288
Date of registration mm/yy 0494

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Deaths Sep 1974 (>99%)
WALTER FLORENCE EDITH 27OC1915 NEWHAM 15 1512

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007


Name: Ethel Florence Carter

Death Age: 73

Birth Date: 15 Apr 1913

Registration Date: Apr 1986

Registration district: Gravesend

Inferred County: Kent

Volume: 16

Page: 803

There are no births with mmn Gorvan other than in Kent plus one in London and one Durham, and none in the name Carter/Govan or Govan/Govan ?

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Jeffrey Sam Walter's life in 1939
41 Station Street, Northfleet U.D., Kent, England

Walter household
(4 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth year DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Jeffrey Sam Walter 1908 01 Dec 1908 Male Lorry Loader Paper Mill Married 54 1
Ethel Flor Walter 1915 15 Apr 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 54 2
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
Michael D Walter 1938 21 Jun 1938 Male Under School Age Single 54 4

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Gorvan Florence E Brigden Strood 2a 1380
Gorvan Mary A Brigden Strood 2a 1380

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Record Transcription:
Kent Baptisms
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First name(s) Florence Ethel
Last name Gorvan
Baptism year 1913
Baptism date 11 May 1913
Church St Margaret
Place Ifield, St Margaret
Residence Thatched Cottages, Ifield
Relationship Daughter Of
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Father's last name Gorvan
Mother's first name(s) Rose Lillian
Mother's last name -
Parent's occupation Labourer
County Kent
Country England
Entry 684
Record set Kent Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain