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MITCHELL Emma Upton 6c 346




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MITCHELL, EMMA -
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in UPTON UPON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 346

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
14, Warwick Road, Sparkhill, Yardley (Worcs), Solihull, Worcestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Wilkinson Head Married Male 42 1859 Hosier Willington, Durham, England
Emma Wilkinson Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Powick, Worcestershire, England
Frank Wilkinson Visitor Married Male 41 1860 Hosier Wellington, Durham, England


It certainly 'could' be them - the occupation is very similar !

I will see if I can link Frank.....................

Dea x

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Willington, Durham, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Wilkinson Head - Male 41 1830 - Yorkshire, England
Jane Wilkinson Wife - Female 40 1831 - Durham, England
Mary A Wilkinson Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Durham, England
Elizabeth Wilkinson Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Durham, England
William Wilkinson Son - Male 18 1853 - Durham, England
**James Wilkinson Son - Male 11 1860 - Durham, England
**Francis Wilkinson Son - Male 9 1862 - Durham, England
Jane Wilkinson Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Durham, England

YES !!! - father James is an Innkeeper !!!!!!!!!!

Dea x

Interesting. Maybe that's why went towards Yorkshire if he is from Durham. I'll look more closely at that then. Perhaps if they had children who died before birth that woukd explain why no child until 1901 if they married in 1895. Maybe met in Yorkshire then moved back towards her place of birth here then back to near Skipton again after marriage to have edward

I'm thinking it's still odd that they married in Skipton Yorkshire. And on wedding certificate it has him as 33 and her as 22. A bit out ThT I think. That for him. Unless he was pretending to be younger.. Not unusual to lie about age though I guess. I think you have hit home with this.
Are you able to find James on the 1891 at all?
Thanks

If we can get James closer to Skipton in 1891 then I'll think it's all good. His father was deceased on his wedding certificate in 1895 in Skipton. Wonder if they are on the 1891.maybe James dad had to travel as an innkeeper to new pubs like they do now

I am looking ................

Frank was a drapers apprentice but I haven't found James yet.............

In the meanwhile - I still need the details of those marriage witnesses please?

Dea x

Here he is:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lynn Street, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Turnbull Head Single Male 41 1850 Draper Scotland
James Wilkinson Boarder Single Male 30 1861 Draper Assistant Durham, England
Thomas R Buck Boarder Single Male 25 1866 Draper Assistant Yorkshire, England
Samuel T Cockburn Boarder Single Male 24 1867 Draper Assistant Wales
Joseph Allen Boarder Single Male 20 1871 Draper Assistant Yorkshire, England
William Wilson Boarder Single Male 21 1870 Drapers Apprentice Yorkshire, England
John H Calverley Boarder - Male 17 1874 Drapers Apprentice Yorkshire, England
Albert Milner Boarder - Male 15 1876 Drapers Apprentice Kirby Knowle, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Turnbull Sister Single Female 29 1862 Milliner Scotland
Isabella Turnbull Sister Single Female 23 1868 Mantle Saleswoman Scotland
Rose Fraser Boarder Single Female 24 1867 Dressmaker Scotland
Mary H Wilson Boarder Single Female 30 1861 Mantle Saleswoman Lancashire, England
Sarah Steptoe Servant Single Female 24 1867 Housekeeper Durham, England
Charlotte Rewis Servant Single Female 20 1871 Domestic Servant Durham, England

Dea x

Thanks dea. Will just check now. Noticed a James Wilkinson aged 51 in hartlepool dying in 1880 so this may he possibly his dad, long shot but woukd explain maybe why no trace of him

Witnesses were Lewis Preston and Mary Rowling or ramping. It's hard to read marys surname I'm afraid. Maybe Rowling. Definately Lewis Preston though
Hope that helps

This will be 'our' Emma !!

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

1, Henwick Road, Worcester St Clement, Worcester, Worcestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bannister Father Head Married Male 35 1846 Laborer Stanford Bishop, Herefordshire, England
Fanny Bannister Mother Married Female 29 1852 - Leigh, Worcestershire, England
Emma Mitchal Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Powick, Worcestershire, England
James Mitchal Son Single Male 4 1877 - Herefordshire, England
George Bannister Son Single Male 0 1881 - St Clement, Worcestershire, England

Dea x

Ah ah. Just found a wedding of Lewis Preston and Mary Rowling in 1896 think on Knaresborough which is nearish to Skipton. I think thst often happened didn't it thst the witnesses were an engaged couple.
So think it is definately Rowling. Rowling is a Durham name I think anyway. Think? Preston is maybe Yorkshire as it coukd be from long Preston. I'm fascinated with names. Ignore me ha ha.
Does this help dea? To know that their witnesses were an engaged couple called Lewis Preston and Mary Rowling who married shortly after?

I found a Lewis Preston born in Worcester and one born in Yorkshire not a common name Lewis Preston. If its the Worcester one then that woukd be good

Think it's more likely to be the Skipton Lewis Preston in 1869 than the Lewis Preston in 1860 from Worcester but you never kniw.

Lewis and Mary were both born in Yorkshire - this would be them:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ivy Cottage, Carleton, Carlton, Skipton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lewis Preston Head Married Male 31 1870 Gardener (Domestic) Carleton, Yorkshire, England
Mary Preston Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Harrogate, Yorkshire, England
William R Preston Son Single Male 2 1899 - Carleton, Yorkshire, England
Ann Oldfield Boarder Single Female 45 1856 Cotton Drawer Carleton, Yorkshire, England

They were probably just friends..............

Dea x

P.S. - What do you think about the 1881 above for Emma?

I see that Emma's mother Fanny was also connected to the 'drapery business'

Dea x

Fanny + her family had moved into Yorkshire by 1891 so not too far from Skipton?

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Back Lane, Long Preston, Settle, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bannister Head Married Male 44 1847 General Labourer Wales
Fanny Bannister Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Worcestershire, England
Emma Bannister Daughter Single Female 18 1873 - Worcestershire, England
James Bannister Son Single Male 16 1875 - Herefordshire, England
Winifred Bannister Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Worcestershire, England
Arthur John Bannister Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Worcestershire, England
Samuel Bannister Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Worcestershire, England
Jessie L May Bannister Daughter - Female 3 1888 Scholar Worcestershire, England
Francis Ern Bannister Son - Male 2 1889 - Worcestershire, England
Fanny Bannister Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Yorkshire, England

Dea x

Now, I just found that Emma moved up to Hartlepool by 1901 - this was where James had been in 1891 BUT I then noticed that Emma was still at her parents home when she should by now have been married to James !!

However, just when I decided it couldn't be her I realised that although she is still shown under her maiden name, with her family, she is in fact marked as 'married' ...

So, I feel sure that it is her !
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
13, Everett Street, West Hartlepool, Hartlepool, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bannister Head Married Male 54 1847 Shipyard Labourer Herefordshire, England
Fanny Bannister Wife Married Female 50 1851 - Worcestershire, England
**Emma Bannister Daughter **Married** Female 28 1873 - Worcestershire, England
James Bannister Son Single Male 26 1875 Shipyard Labourer Herefordshire, England
Winifred Bannister Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Worcestershire, England
Samuel Bannister Son - Male 15 1886 Farm Servant Worcestershire, England
Jessie Bannister Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Worcestershire, England
Francis H Bannister Son - Male 11 1890 - Worcestershire, England
Fanny Bannister Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Yorkshire, England
Walter Bannister Son - Male 2 1899 - West Hartlepool, Durham, England

She could have been recorded with the family in error or perhaps she was visiting at the time so included and James included her with him as that was where she actually lived. - I have seen people recorded in two places on a census several times before.

Dea x

Mm maybe. Hartlepool woukd work though. She wasn't actually a bannister either was she, a Mitchell, and either James was her step father or her real dD and her mum had her out of wedlock

Yes think that's definately her. You may be right about being on two census. As they had no children and she coukd even have commuted between the two although Worcester and hartlepool are quite far apart. Maybe James had another woman with him on census night who pretended to be Emma. Maybe the reason they had no children is because they were hardly together until 1901. And maybe he was a bit of a cad ????

Hi dea
Looks like fanny Mitchell and James bannister married in 1881 so they had only just married each other on that census in Worcester it seems.
Shirley